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26th May 2010, 09:52
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Posted By takata

Nose up?

Hello,


Certainly not there.
Pic3 and Pic4 are not the same piece of wreckage as the front fuselage piece shown in your Pic1 and Pic2. Look at tail orientation and you'll see that this piece is...
20th May 2010, 09:25
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Posted By takata

Hi, You might bother to read the thread...

Hi,

You might bother to read the thread before speculating. This never happened, communications with ATC reports no problem until crash time.
S~
Olivier
20th May 2010, 09:16
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Posted By takata

Hello, All suppositions given above (inverted,...

Hello,
All suppositions given above (inverted, no high AOA) are not taking into account the very first impact and following trail left on the sand. Some pictures taken from the ground won't give the...
18th May 2010, 15:03
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Posted By takata

Yes, its quite puzzling but they might have been...

Yes, its quite puzzling but they might have been moved because of the fire and fumes for clearing the runway. I have seen a footage showing them burning amongst trees (and there is none where they...
18th May 2010, 14:36
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Posted By takata

Yes. Those are the same poles from C-SAR's images...

Yes. Those are the same poles from C-SAR's images (That is why I included this first picture as the impact point is at its left limit). One seems still standing on the right (see the sun shadow), and...
17th May 2010, 21:50
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Posted By takata

Hi; Another picture found by C-SAR in Libya...

Hi;
Another picture found by C-SAR in Libya showing the debris field and track left before tail separation. This view is from mosque's roof; initial impact is on the left but out of the pict. The...
17th May 2010, 09:57
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Posted By takata

If it is not due to visual illusion (I don't...

If it is not due to visual illusion (I don't think so), it is showing that cactus were cut by trailing edge of horizontal stab rather than leading edge, and will give the sinking angle in the...
17th May 2010, 09:13
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Posted By takata

Hi, Because they were possibly not landing...

Hi,

Because they were possibly not landing gear tracks but rear under belly related (tail). Landing gear is more than 2 times wider than this track left (also it can not be related to engine's...
16th May 2010, 19:06
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Posted By takata

Exactly. This house is well after the first...

Exactly. This house is well after the first impact point. If hit, it would be with the right horizontal stabilizer which was pretty damaged and could have participated to the tail separation which...
16th May 2010, 10:14
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Posted By takata

Crash Site Visits

Hello there,

Nobody commented C-SAR's last days postings.
This forum is having someone on the site (in Tripoli), and C-SAR could visit the impact zone and look around much better than any press...
15th May 2010, 13:23
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Posted By takata

This observation fit very well with what could...

This observation fit very well with what could happen once the tail is separated. Until then, first impact was not too hard and structure's bits going loose would be only from the rear under belly...
15th May 2010, 12:33
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Posted By takata

Right. That's why I think a good angle was kept...

Right. That's why I think a good angle was kept and engines hit the dirt much later after initial impact. One is lying about 200 m East of the mosque. It doesn't fit with nose down attitude at impact.
15th May 2010, 12:13
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Posted By takata

I fear they might have been moved when still...

I fear they might have been moved when still burning for clearing the runway of their fumes.
15th May 2010, 12:10
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Posted By takata

Hello, C-SAR, thank you, it would be very...

Hello,

C-SAR, thank you, it would be very nice if you could look at the initial impact zone, and if those "white" traces are related or not to impact, and check roughly the width of the initial...
14th May 2010, 18:39
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Posted By takata

High (horizontal) energy is the clue. That is why...

High (horizontal) energy is the clue. That is why I'm suspecting that she wasn't actually landing (descelerating) but accelerating because of its failed approach, while being too low and hit some...
14th May 2010, 18:06
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Posted By takata

I don't have pictures of it but I've got the...

I don't have pictures of it but I've got the report description of the wreck which is pretty short:

Impact was near Blagnac Airport's runway.
First contact was made with left wing.
Wreckage...
14th May 2010, 17:09
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Posted By takata

I could watch it at least. Thank you for the...

I could watch it at least. Thank you for the link.
But curiously, again, when they were close to the tail section, they were only showing their feet and the ground around but not what I would like...
14th May 2010, 16:09
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Posted By takata

There were still some important sections of the...

There were still some important sections of the aircraft remaining. Just they didn't end near the rear section wreckage but several hundreds meters farther. Have a look again at this CNN video I...
14th May 2010, 15:58
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Posted By takata

@ C-SAR Before you may leave for elsewhere,...

@ C-SAR

Before you may leave for elsewhere, any chance that you could take some pictures of contact point West of the Mosque?
I'll be very curious to see if it impacted the constructions here....
14th May 2010, 11:06
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Posted By takata

Rumors, like usual, stand unfounded until now. I...

Rumors, like usual, stand unfounded until now. I don't think that the crash site is really "compact", at least 1 km long, without seeing exactly where is the point of impact (at least before the...
14th May 2010, 10:07
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Views: 856,632
Posted By takata

Too bad, I can't read it. It seems localized. ...

Too bad, I can't read it. It seems localized.

For those still doubting of the crash orientation, here is two poor quality screenshots from yesterday's video here: Video - Breaking News Videos from...
14th May 2010, 09:25
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Posted By takata

It is not perpendicular but roughly in the...

It is not perpendicular but roughly in the direction pointed by the horizontal plan of the tailfin shown from the air. This is an illusion due to perspective change (same for tail cone and tailfin...
14th May 2010, 09:07
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Posted By takata

Did you see my previous post...

Did you see my previous post here:http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/414936-afriqiyah-airbus-330-crash-14.html#post5691875?
The only difference is that the terrain from Google map is flat. But every...
14th May 2010, 08:54
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Posted By takata

Nationality is not a factor. So far, all the...

Nationality is not a factor.
So far, all the reports are confirming that this Captain and crew was really experienced and totally qualified to fly this aircraft which was brand new. They have been...
14th May 2010, 07:59
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Posted By takata

Hi, I tried to find some footages from the...

Hi,
I tried to find some footages from the buildings on the right of the Mosquee but without success. This picture is clearly showing that the impact was before the Mosquee but it seems that nobody...
13th May 2010, 21:14
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Posted By takata

PJ2 The tailfin's leading edge is definitely...

PJ2
The tailfin's leading edge is definitely oriented to the West, but it looks like having rotated during the crash.
Note: the tail cone is on the right close to picture's border, and most of the...
13th May 2010, 18:16
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Views: 856,632
Posted By takata

It seems a correct observation. The vertical stab...

It seems a correct observation. The vertical stab is pointing to the west, while most of the debris field is also behind it, and parts of the wings seems encastred into airfield's wire fence....
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