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20th Sep 2009, 18:00
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Posted By Will Fraser

Captain

Relative to the Captain's personal decisions, I suggest it is private, and in a civil forum would remain so. Sullenberger has wandered the public domain, so an easy answer would be any carrier would...
11th Sep 2009, 16:47
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Posted By Will Fraser

Congratulations, Captain. Is that the bird that...

Congratulations, Captain. Is that the bird that took a bird in #2?
5th Aug 2009, 19:39
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Posted By Will Fraser

Maybe when the Glacier starts to impact Fuel...

Maybe when the Glacier starts to impact Fuel capacity this problem will get attention. Was what was frozen solid in the tanks what was left ? Was the a/c actually totally OOF ??
5th Aug 2009, 00:18
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Posted By Will Fraser

BA038 was on stand overnight....afaik if it...

BA038 was on stand overnight....afaik

if it was five hours, that's 40 million an hour and a fractured leg.
5th Aug 2009, 00:03
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Posted By Will Fraser

There's already hot hydrant, but in any case the...

There's already hot hydrant, but in any case the infrastructure exists, it just takes money and the will.
4th Aug 2009, 22:53
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Posted By Will Fraser

Rightbase I would acknowledge all your...

Rightbase

I would acknowledge all your conclusions. I don't see anywhere that you think it is ok, this water in fuel. That leaves sumping after melt at a suitable location. Because something is...
4th Aug 2009, 02:55
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Posted By Will Fraser

The Pump is driven by the engine gearbox, which...

The Pump is driven by the engine gearbox, which in GE has its own heat exchanger interface with fuel. The HP doesn't pump a great deal more than the engine requires, and the spill is a fairly closely...
3rd Aug 2009, 22:21
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Views: 1,137,497
Posted By Will Fraser

You raise the 64 dollar question, Chris. For...

You raise the 64 dollar question, Chris. For fifty years the USAF and RAF have been flying up to FL600 and higher, to my knowledge, not one a/c has been lost to Fuel ICE. That in the days when jet...
3rd Aug 2009, 18:14
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Posted By Will Fraser

pls8xs Technically, in the cavitation...

pls8xs

Technically, in the cavitation incident described it is at the Outlet of the HP where the Pressure is zero. The HP is Upstream of the FOHE, so the FOHE had exactly what to do with the Fuel...
3rd Aug 2009, 17:17
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Posted By Will Fraser

Too many watch the shiny object, (FAA, AAIB,...

Too many watch the shiny object, (FAA, AAIB, etc.) The problem is not the FOHE, Water does NOT belong in Fuel. The Piping picture in the Report is Upstream, and the quantity of Ice is disturbing...
3rd Aug 2009, 15:51
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Posted By Will Fraser

TWA800. Not heating caused. Empty, 'fume filled'...

TWA800. Not heating caused. Empty, 'fume filled' Center tank, and some 'arcing' internal wires, as I recall. Much talk of the need for 'inerting' tanks, like the 787 does. The need for inerting...
1st Aug 2009, 17:59
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Posted By Will Fraser

barit1 In theory, if what you mean is...

barit1

In theory, if what you mean is transferring some of the heat of compression to the Fuel, it makes sense. Cooler air can be compressed further, and adds efficiency. The Thermodynamics are...
30th Jul 2009, 18:10
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Posted By Will Fraser

Smilin'Ed You may have missed the irony in...

Smilin'Ed

You may have missed the irony in my post, I suggested that a retrofit of a full on bypass for fuel was being actively avoided.

If you think something more than 'converting' a cooler...
30th Jul 2009, 16:00
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Posted By Will Fraser

chris I have no naive trust, at least not...

chris

I have no naive trust, at least not relative to that which I had years ago.
I think a 'simple bypass system', may have been looked at prior to original design vis a vis Trent8, but...
27th Jul 2009, 00:11
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Views: 1,137,497
Posted By Will Fraser

I haven't smelled Chinese Fuel from China. What...

I haven't smelled Chinese Fuel from China. What drops an FP 20 degrees below 'spec'. If its expensive, why bother ? If it's cheaper, why ?
26th Jul 2009, 16:02
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Posted By Will Fraser

vapilot2004 To now, the fix is an...

vapilot2004

To now, the fix is an operational workaround, a cycling of thrust to heat the engine, melting the Ice.

Until AD compliance, that is the 'fix'.

After fleet wide compliance, a...
16th Jul 2009, 17:29
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Posted By Will Fraser

The FOHE (Trent) was not specifically designed as...

The FOHE (Trent) was not specifically designed as a fuel heater/ice melter.

I can't stress this enough. Modifying an existing component to mitigate a problem its overall design was never meant to...
16th Jul 2009, 16:22
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Posted By Will Fraser

So much of what we see from the authority seems...

So much of what we see from the authority seems to depend on blind faith. A "tiny sample" can NOT be relied upon to exclude a growing and more pervasive problem. It is shortsighted to assume it is...
16th Jul 2009, 15:32
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Posted By Will Fraser

Nearly eighteen months on, the "solution" appears...

Nearly eighteen months on, the "solution" appears to be "melting the ice"?

Bravo ? Arse about. Why not keep the ice out of the fuel, after FIRST addressing that as the problem itself. "Previously...
14th Jul 2009, 21:56
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Posted By Will Fraser

I have been reviewing this thread for several...

I have been reviewing this thread for several hours. I found this post amongst others, but it has a premonition I thought interesting.

15 May 2008 #1151 (page 58)

Will


Pinkman Not so...
13th Jun 2009, 01:13
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Views: 1,137,497
Posted By Will Fraser

Question? Would Fatty acid methyl ester be a...

Question? Would Fatty acid methyl ester be a danger at any level? With its sticky propensity, wouldn't 1ppm be too much? Seems to me 038 fuel testing results entertained that 70ppm water was...
11th Jun 2009, 21:41
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Views: 1,137,497
Posted By Will Fraser

That was exactly the point, it seemed that...

That was exactly the point, it seemed that 'meets' and or 'exceeds' the spec. satisfied the authority. Should it have? In my opinion, NO. What is it about such a low FP that should be investigated?
...
11th Jun 2009, 19:45
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Views: 1,137,497
Posted By Will Fraser

A long ago post by airfoilmod comes to mind. He...

A long ago post by airfoilmod comes to mind. He took issue with the 'in spec' conclusion of AAIB testing, though the FP was markedly lower than standard Minimum. His position was something like...
11th Jun 2009, 14:03
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Posted By Will Fraser

Pinkman Bear with me. Some questions. If...

Pinkman

Bear with me. Some questions. If the industry is lobbying for 100ppm that's more than dissolved water, and the problem there is patent (038)

Are the producers trying to keep their...
4th Jun 2009, 20:28
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Views: 1,137,497
Posted By Will Fraser

Some questions then. As a fuel guy, do you...

Some questions then. As a fuel guy, do you conclude that the (permitted) water was the culprit? Was it an accumulation of atmospheric moisture via venting? What about the conclusion that the ice was...
2nd Jun 2009, 16:08
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Views: 1,137,497
Posted By Will Fraser

HeathrowAirport - Don't discount the...

HeathrowAirport -

Don't discount the effects of #engines. I have seen plenty of pax count them on their fingers before boarding. I'd like to encourage you to continue to ask good questions, stay...
29th May 2009, 23:30
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,497
Posted By Will Fraser

Fewer problems flying cold? Public relations?...

Fewer problems flying cold? Public relations? Guess: both

What's Delta doing?
29th May 2009, 22:54
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,497
Posted By Will Fraser

chris weston - Thanks, and I agree this thread...

chris weston - Thanks, and I agree this thread was food for thought. No acknowledgments are necessary, nor will they be likely forthcoming. That is as it should be. Honestly, I think some of the...
27th May 2009, 17:46
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,497
Posted By Will Fraser

May I ask a pertinent question? Anybody still...

May I ask a pertinent question? Anybody still breathing at AAIB? Have they been redundantated?
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