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Forum: Tech Log
1st Mar 2009, 01:13
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

Not sure how one is supposed to "end" one of...

Not sure how one is supposed to "end" one of these topics, but according to one, Lemurian, I didn't have the "nerve" to do so.

So, Mr/Mrs Lemurian, consider this ended.:bored:
Forum: Tech Log
10th Feb 2009, 23:58
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

And just what would those "characteristics" be? ...

And just what would those "characteristics" be? The 737 did not have a stick pusher and yet could stall.
Forum: Tech Log
10th Feb 2009, 22:07
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

NigelOnDraft & Lemurian - Are you telling...

NigelOnDraft & Lemurian -

Are you telling me that the A-320 cannot get ice on the tail plane? You can't be serious. Boeing said the same thing about the 737 and were wrong. If the wing can ice...
Forum: Tech Log
10th Feb 2009, 20:09
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

Therefore, w/o tail anti-ice, the tail could...

Therefore, w/o tail anti-ice, the tail could stall before the wing and you would have no warning. I assume that in "other laws" the warning is based on some computer info from some source....
Forum: Tech Log
10th Feb 2009, 14:22
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

OK...thanks for that info. re....

OK...thanks for that info.

re. "stick-shaker"; what is the stall warning indication on the A-320-type aircraft?

2nd question: Do the A-320 types have tail de-ice?
Forum: Tech Log
6th Feb 2009, 16:07
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

FlightDetent - "I like (so far) the tone of...

FlightDetent -

"I like (so far) the tone of the thread. My opinion is that it DID matter. Rods/pulleys have no check valves or sort. FBW may, as per individual design. Pilot error forcing A/C to...
Forum: Tech Log
6th Feb 2009, 16:04
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

ChristiaanJ - "Lemurian, Thanks for the...

ChristiaanJ -

"Lemurian,
Thanks for the link."

I read through that and it looks like there's more cases against automation than for it.
Forum: Tech Log
6th Feb 2009, 14:25
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

Lemurian - Two of the accidents you listed...

Lemurian -

Two of the accidents you listed were the (apparent) result of PILOT ERROR. The fact that the spoilers are 'mechanical' really did not matter.

05 July 1970
Air Canada
Toronto,...
Forum: Tech Log
6th Feb 2009, 13:13
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

Lemurian - "And btw, the co-pilot was only...

Lemurian -
"And btw, the co-pilot was only arming the ground spoilers, not extending them."

Ah...you yourself stated in #25:
"the crew thought wise to deploy the [b]ground spoilers/b] on...
Forum: Tech Log
5th Feb 2009, 22:41
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

Lemurian - The Toronto accident was pilot...

Lemurian -

The Toronto accident was pilot error. The F/O actuated the spoilers 60' above ground on a DC-8.....strickly a NO, NO!

Lake Pontchartrain was an apparent failure of the PTC.
...
Forum: Tech Log
5th Feb 2009, 21:08
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

Centreline747 - "Just to add a little log to...

Centreline747 -
"Just to add a little log to the fire, the 747 classic (and I suspect the -400) is all cable and pulleys from the control column to the hydraulic actuators, but if you lose all...
Forum: Tech Log
5th Feb 2009, 21:05
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

Lemurian = "Well, just have a look at the AC...

Lemurian =
"Well, just have a look at the AC DC-8 in Toronto when the crew thought wise to deploy the [b]ground spoilers/b] on landing....109 fatalities...
A quick research on the various accident...
Forum: Tech Log
5th Feb 2009, 18:45
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

ChristiaanJ - As I stated in another post,...

ChristiaanJ -
As I stated in another post, perhaps the "computer controlled" engines need to bne grouped in this discussion as well.

As to:
"(DC-8 comes to mind).
Not to mention that, more...
Forum: Tech Log
5th Feb 2009, 16:55
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

NigelOnDraft - "Has FBW yet caused a fataility?...

NigelOnDraft -
"Has FBW yet caused a fataility? The only accidents I can recall that seem the FBW was a "signficant factor" are QF72 (likely) and the Iberia A320 at BIO... neither of which had...
Forum: Tech Log
5th Feb 2009, 16:39
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

Centreline747 - ".....I was just implying that...

Centreline747 -
".....I was just implying that we keep this a civilised thread, amongst the professionals out there, in what could be a very interesting discussion of the pros and cons of what is,...
Forum: Tech Log
5th Feb 2009, 16:23
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

Storminnorm - "Could weight and cost have any...

Storminnorm -
"Could weight and cost have any influence on it?"

As I have said a few times.....YES! I've always been more concerned with safety than cost. That's why I was critizised a few...
Forum: Tech Log
5th Feb 2009, 15:39
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

Yes, the DC-8 had powered controls. In fact they...

Yes, the DC-8 had powered controls. In fact they were all boosted. But in the event of loss of hydraulic power, there were cables for backup if only operating tabs. You could still fly the airplane....
Forum: Tech Log
5th Feb 2009, 15:18
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

Centreline747 - "I understand your thinking,...

Centreline747 -
"I understand your thinking, but this could turn into yet another Boeing/ Airbus slagging match!! "

That was NOT my intent as Boeing already has some FBW technology installed in...
Forum: Tech Log
5th Feb 2009, 14:29
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

18-Wheeler...

18-Wheeler (http://www.pprune.org/members/35140-18-wheeler) -

I was not aware of the things you listed. I won't be buying or riding in any of those.
Forum: Tech Log
5th Feb 2009, 14:25
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

"Which is the most recent true "cable" (large)...

"Which is the most recent true "cable" (large) airliner built? 757/767 was not... "

Ah.....three guesses. The DC-ATE.
Forum: Tech Log
5th Feb 2009, 14:05
Replies: 66
Views: 10,399
Posted By DC-ATE

CABLE vs FBW

Cable vs Fly-by-wire

Under Rumours & News in the Plane Down in Hudson River - NYC and Airbus crash/training threads there is much talk about the good and bad with FBW. Every time an...
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