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2nd Sep 2021, 08:23
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Posted By Gary Brown

UPDATE Sept 2nd 2021 - English version of BEA...

UPDATE Sept 2nd 2021 - English version of BEA Final Report just published:
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27th Jul 2021, 11:47
Replies: 66
Views: 45,510
Posted By Gary Brown

I think we can go back to the "holes in the...

I think we can go back to the "holes in the cheese lining up" accident model proposed by Prof. Jim Reason ..... The BEA report identifies 4 big holes in this particular cheese (and a few smaller...
27th Jul 2021, 09:41
Replies: 66
Views: 45,510
Posted By Gary Brown

ATC Watcher The one thing I'd add from the...

ATC Watcher

The one thing I'd add from the BEA report is that just before the incident "someone" had managed to fire up her normal position - the one with a view westwards to the thresholds - and...
26th Jul 2021, 16:10
Replies: 66
Views: 45,510
Posted By Gary Brown

Question - having been (erroneously) give a side...

Question - having been (erroneously) give a side step to 9R and not having a reply to his "query", United's choice I guess was to a) continue to land on 9L even though he was (erroneously) no longer...
26th Jul 2021, 09:45
Replies: 66
Views: 45,510
Posted By Gary Brown

Avman The BEA report (still only available...

Avman

The BEA report (still only available in French) deals with that point quite specifically. The United crew stated that they were stable for 9L, had clear visual to both 9L and 9R, were...
26th Jul 2021, 07:27
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Views: 45,510
Posted By Gary Brown

@ Lissart. Thanks for that very thoughtful...

@ Lissart.

Thanks for that very thoughtful set of language thoughts. I suspect a well-attuned native English speaker can even detect an intention to query rather than to confirm even from a flat,...
25th Jul 2021, 10:57
Replies: 66
Views: 45,510
Posted By Gary Brown

I think you'll be shocked at the ATC setup and...

I think you'll be shocked at the ATC setup and actions on that morning when the English version of the report comes out: disorganization in the room, as well as slips of the tongue!

BTW, surely...
25th Jul 2021, 08:22
Replies: 66
Views: 45,510
Posted By Gary Brown

This is a question for any Controllers here,...

This is a question for any Controllers here, especially non-USA ones. Would you have heard « Understand cleared to land 09 Right, side step for 9 Right United 57 » as a request for confirmation?
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21st Jul 2021, 11:01
Replies: 66
Views: 45,510
Posted By Gary Brown

BTW, the BEA report clarifies the sequence of...

BTW, the BEA report clarifies the sequence of events in the last couple of seconds, in terms of situational awareness and reaction.

- EasyJet Captain (who was not PF) sees United descending but...
21st Jul 2021, 10:22
Replies: 66
Views: 45,510
Posted By Gary Brown

BEA report just published in French: ...

BEA report just published in French:
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