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Forum: Tech Log
8th Jun 2008, 15:53
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

Wizofox we are one on this / made my first part...

Wizofox we are one on this / made my first part of the trip back florida up to goose bay. Then made it direct to Iceland. Got some good shots of greenland from FL390 but bad turbulence unforecast jet...
Forum: Tech Log
4th Jun 2008, 18:37
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

Pugilistic Animus That was a joke :-) but...

Pugilistic Animus

That was a joke :-) but yes I am ferrying a Citation S2 Florida to UK tomorrow thurs and now look as if I have to carry on down to South Africa so you will have the best part of...
Forum: Tech Log
3rd Jun 2008, 17:20
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

Pilot Bear That also has some important...

Pilot Bear

That also has some important safety factors involved. The pilot who pitches for blue line and doesnt get a climb is going to be fooled into thinking he is in a worse state than he is...
Forum: Tech Log
3rd Jun 2008, 12:53
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

Wizofox With your expertise we got there in...

Wizofox

With your expertise we got there in the end :-) Now I am off thurs to Florida to ferry a Citation S2 back to the uk so will be out of the loop until Sunday after tomorrow. I can even play...
Forum: Tech Log
3rd Jun 2008, 09:48
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

Wizofox Of course we are amicable :-) i will...

Wizofox

Of course we are amicable :-) i will run these tests but yes I think I will get the results that you are indicating as I have always had a climb at VYSE when going level and it may have...
Forum: Tech Log
3rd Jun 2008, 00:42
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

Pugilistic Animus or Lester Another...

Pugilistic Animus or Lester

Another intelligent answer :-)

Said with humour :-)

Pace
Forum: Tech Log
3rd Jun 2008, 00:11
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

>Easy, it won't. If it won't climb at Vyse, it...

>Easy, it won't. If it won't climb at Vyse, it won't cruise at any other speed. Simple<

Wizofox

I think I know what you are getting at! If you have max power on the remaining engine, Are...
Forum: Tech Log
1st Jun 2008, 15:39
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

Pugilistic animus The proof of the pudding...

Pugilistic animus

The proof of the pudding is in the eating IT WORKS! and is another option before you take to the trees. You can always still take to the trees if it doesnt :-)

pace
Forum: Tech Log
1st Jun 2008, 15:25
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

>Because the power required for a climb is not...

>Because the power required for a climb is not equal to the power available<

Pugilistic animus

Thank you in a few words you say it all. Hence why attempting to climb an unclimbing aircraft is...
Forum: Tech Log
1st Jun 2008, 15:05
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

Missing link?

I can take the ribbing but am trying to have a serious discussion. To clear up a few points yes it is obvious that the faster you go the more drag there will be, not in question. Take an aircraft on...
Forum: Tech Log
31st May 2008, 16:39
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

>Why descend to accelerate? If you have excess...

>Why descend to accelerate? If you have excess power to climb at Vyse, simply leveling off will accelerate the aircraft with no height loss. If you DON'T, the aircraft will not maintain height at any...
Forum: Tech Log
31st May 2008, 10:49
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

Wizofox >No they're not. The drag/power curve...

Wizofox
>No they're not. The drag/power curve is how much power you need to maintain LEVEL flight. If you have excess power over and above that, you can climb, or fly LEVEL at a faster speed. If...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2008, 19:09
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

GR8handini I agree with all you are saying...

GR8handini

I agree with all you are saying here. Especially about what I referred to as step climbs and you referred to as zoom climbs.

Yes the faster you go in level flight the more kinetic...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2008, 17:18
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

>By the way, have another look at that chart that...

>By the way, have another look at that chart that gave you 127kts cruise on one. TAS right? At what weight and what height? Work out what INDICATED speed that corresponds to, and get back to me!!<
...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2008, 15:17
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

>Best rate of climb, single engine is just that....

>Best rate of climb, single engine is just that. Minimum drag is just that. Maximum altitude is just that. You claim to somehow magically be able to make an aircraft climb at BETTER than BEST rate of...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2008, 09:58
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

>The fact is that following engine failure in a...

>The fact is that following engine failure in a twin, providing the subsequent landing is safe, there will be no formal 'publicity'; the event is non-reportable and will not be investigated. Thus the...
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2008, 22:43
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

Wizofox Rather than point scoring over each...

Wizofox

Rather than point scoring over each other I would rather leave it with you and beg to differ. You will not change my opinions and I will not change yours.
All I will say is that the...
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2008, 05:10
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

>If, in the above situation you now lower the...

>If, in the above situation you now lower the nose to accelerate (assuming >you were at the correct Vyse at the time), your descent will increase and will stay that way. Thus your hole in the grond...
Forum: Tech Log
28th May 2008, 21:35
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

PK-KAR >Another beer Pace?< Is it my round...

PK-KAR >Another beer Pace?<

Is it my round or yours ? :-)

Actually I am getting quite fond of him popping in in different guises :-)

Pace
Forum: Tech Log
28th May 2008, 21:25
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

>I can't see the point in step climbing. Surely a...

>I can't see the point in step climbing. Surely a sustained, trimmed, shallow climb is preferable, and will return the same or better average RoC without having to flirt with Vyse from time to time?<...
Forum: Tech Log
28th May 2008, 20:33
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

Wizofox >One big difference between...

Wizofox

>One big difference between Skydivers (1200 jumps and an AFF rating, just by the way!!) and aeroplanes is that skydivers don't have engines!! Aeroplanes don't have "Terminal velocities <
...
Forum: Tech Log
28th May 2008, 17:17
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

By any chance do you mean that L= CL*1/2 rho*V>2?...

By any chance do you mean that L= CL*1/2 rho*V>2? Cause it does.

>If what you said above were true, then the faster you went, the less total drag you'd produce, and the aircraft would just keep...
Forum: Tech Log
28th May 2008, 16:44
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

>The author of this article stated that Comair,...

>The author of this article stated that Comair, who started out in life operating only light twins such as the Navajo had suffered serious accidents as a consequence of Pilots loosing an engine, and...
Forum: Tech Log
28th May 2008, 16:33
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

>Yes, but if you reduce "pitch" (I think you mean...

>Yes, but if you reduce "pitch" (I think you mean angle of attack- there is a difference) before you accelerate, you also reduce lift. If you were only maintaining height at Vyse, you are now...
Forum: Tech Log
28th May 2008, 14:57
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

RadicalRabit No this is a serious point for...

RadicalRabit

No this is a serious point for discussion. I have over 2500 hrs in light twins alone and your welcome to my ATP numbers to a private E mail.

Pace
Forum: Tech Log
28th May 2008, 14:54
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

>Your question only considers the take off...

>Your question only considers the take off situation. There are other occasions where it's nice to have two engines - flight over water or inhospitable terrain and/or night or IMC!<

Fireblob
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Forum: Tech Log
28th May 2008, 14:48
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

>If you aren't climbing at blue line speed, i.e...

>If you aren't climbing at blue line speed, i.e you are only just maintaining altitude, then you are using all the available power. If you don't have excess power to climb, you also don't have excess...
Forum: Tech Log
28th May 2008, 12:21
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

>Blue line is the best climb speed on one engine....

>Blue line is the best climb speed on one engine. How is climbing, however slowley, better than maintaining altitude?<

Because you may not be climbing at all at blue line and without speed your...
Forum: Tech Log
28th May 2008, 12:07
Replies: 91
Views: 12,103
Posted By Pace

High accident rates in light twins an alternative?

We all know that the accident rate for light twins is attrocious with an engine failure.

Infact I believe you are more likely to survive a single engine failure and the subsequent forced landing...
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