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Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
25th Jun 2020, 22:58
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

CASA have ruled that an operation can be...

CASA have ruled that an operation can be classified for more than one purpose at the same time (CASA Ruling 3/2004). While it refers to operations under CAR 206, it confirms that more than one...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
25th Jun 2020, 07:08
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

It's still being flown for the primary purpose...

It's still being flown for the primary purpose (you can have multiple purposes) of the personal transportation of the owner of the aircraft. The headsets are just a side hustle.
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
25th Jun 2020, 06:30
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

That aircraft owner, who is paying the PPL pilot...

That aircraft owner, who is paying the PPL pilot owns the headsets.

But I can see where you're going here. You are going to tell me that despite no change to the status under CAR 2(7)(d)(i) - so...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
25th Jun 2020, 05:33
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

No, I would agree with that. Can you take a...

No, I would agree with that.

Can you take a box of 20 headsets with the hope of selling them to pilots you meet at airfields along the way?
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
25th Jun 2020, 00:14
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

A contract where "the control, maintenance and...

A contract where "the control, maintenance and operation of the aircraft is vested in the hirer" is not your everyday private hire agreement. Sure, in those cases you assume many rights and...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
24th Jun 2020, 22:49
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

I thought you were claiming an operation that was...

I thought you were claiming an operation that was classed as private under CAR 2(7) never required an AOC.



Who said anything about purchasing an aircraft? And I doubt that the hirer is...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
24th Jun 2020, 07:32
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

That's not an example I gave. My example (which...

That's not an example I gave. My example (which you keep ignoring) was someone purchasing an aircraft for a regular trip to Sydney (2(7)(d)(i)), then publicly selling the spare seats.



Again,...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
24th Jun 2020, 06:06
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

Lets look at the overlap between CAR 206 and CAR...

Lets look at the overlap between CAR 206 and CAR 2(7)(d) i.e. private operations that (I argue) require an AOC:

agricultural operations on land owned and occupied by the owner of the aircraft
...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
24th Jun 2020, 05:36
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

I'm just reading it, I didn't write it. But why...

I'm just reading it, I didn't write it. But why shouldn't an AOC be required for a private operation that falls under CAR 206?

What about someone selling seats on their private 2(7)(d)(i)...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
24th Jun 2020, 05:01
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

Are you suggesting that anyone simply earning a...

Are you suggesting that anyone simply earning a living should be excluded from CAR 206 because earning a living is not commercial?

What about the farmer who once a month flies to the livestock...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
24th Jun 2020, 04:26
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

Do you reckon he claims the cost on his tax? ...

Do you reckon he claims the cost on his tax?

If he's travelling TO work i.e. from home to his work location, not commercial. If he's travelling FOR work i.e. from one work location to another then...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
24th Jun 2020, 03:55
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

No - only what is listed in CAR 206. ...

No - only what is listed in CAR 206.

Commercial purposes and commercial operations can be different things.

E.g. a DAME owns an aircraft and flys himself from place to place to do aviation...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
24th Jun 2020, 03:50
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

If I own an aircraft and use it to fly regularly...

If I own an aircraft and use it to fly regularly to Sydney, and decide to advertise and sell the spare seats to the public I would say yes, it requires an AOC despite CAR 2(7)(d)(i). Commercial...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
24th Jun 2020, 02:37
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

I agree that the word "commercial" is somewhat...

I agree that the word "commercial" is somewhat awkward in the context of the regulation. Thanks for the information about how it came to be there. It would be easier to pretend it wasn't there, but I...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
24th Jun 2020, 00:36
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

I think you are illustrating my point about...

I think you are illustrating my point about people looking for loopholes.

A good starting point: Aerial photography (or substantially similar) is taking photos from an aircraft, whether they be...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
23rd Jun 2020, 22:32
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

There are 2 reasons people find CAR 206...

There are 2 reasons people find CAR 206 confusing:
1) People try to find loopholes and merge other bits of the regulations to try to make it say what they want, and
2) CASA also do #1

It seems...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
19th Jun 2020, 07:09
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

You don't have to satisfy ALL the conditions in...

You don't have to satisfy ALL the conditions in 2(7)(d), only any one of them.

2(7A) outlines the conditions for 2(7)(d)(va). 2(7)(d)(v) the carriage of persons or the carriage of goods without a...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
19th Jun 2020, 04:01
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

OK, but I don't see where Section 27 pulls in the...

OK, but I don't see where Section 27 pulls in the definition of private operations from CAR 2(7). CAR 206 defines operations for section 27. CAR2(7) also refers to definitions from CAR 206, so if...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
18th Jun 2020, 23:39
Replies: 80
Views: 12,532
Posted By andrewr

CAR 206 is messy because people seem to interpret...

CAR 206 is messy because people seem to interpret it as meaning what they think it should mean rather than what it actually says.
Reading CAR 206 I can see:

Only 2 of the sections mention...
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