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8th Mar 2009, 04:52
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Posted By vino

No, it shouldn't. Neither should the LGW based...

No, it shouldn't. Neither should the LGW based 757 have found itself on departure with a >25deg PNU and entering a full stall, or the NG which spent >5mins at altitude in and out of stick shaker-etc...
7th Mar 2009, 22:40
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Posted By vino

BOAC Astraeus, Reasonable comment, but given...

BOAC Astraeus,
Reasonable comment, but given the Recovery Manoever doesn't specifically require it, and in this instance it adversely affected the recovery (because of A/T issue) it leaves a...
7th Mar 2009, 08:23
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Posted By vino

Now, Reverend..... and your point being....? ...

Now, Reverend.....
and your point being....?
In amongst the many posts, there has been some intelligent and informed comment, which has without doubt enhanced the awareness/perceptions of the many...
7th Mar 2009, 04:02
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Posted By vino

Yes-it would have to trim almost continuously...

Yes-it would have to trim almost continuously once the speed decayed below Vref-but there were probably a lot of other distractions starting to creep in by then.
Cargun- according to Safta's...
7th Mar 2009, 01:36
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Posted By vino

Pretty good analysis Alf. Tied in with the...

Pretty good analysis Alf.
Tied in with the previous report/speculation that 2 hands required for mis-trim, then TL's return to Flt Idle-again- and it very quickly becomes un-recoverable (Safta..)....
6th Mar 2009, 23:15
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Posted By vino

May well be using V/S as pitch mode, with GS...

May well be using V/S as pitch mode, with GS armed (or maybe not). That would allow LLZ tracking but explain vertical offsets.
Typical technique to capture GS (from above) would be V/S, as Lvl Chg...
6th Mar 2009, 05:01
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Posted By vino

But your SOP's (and most everybody's) says Stable...

But your SOP's (and most everybody's) says Stable by 1000'=spooled up right? That's less than 100 secs to TD. I know ideally it should be better- but they were hot-and it was a training mission-they...
6th Mar 2009, 01:40
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Posted By vino

1/ I've only just managed to look at the data...

1/ I've only just managed to look at the data from the flight, and the generated flight path.
All technical and crew issues aside, one thing stands out to me.
In a typical weight 737-800 landing...
5th Mar 2009, 06:47
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Posted By vino

Finally, some commonsense emerging on this...

Finally, some commonsense emerging on this thread.
As long as pilots, their managers and the manufacturer bang there fists on the table asking the obvious and trot out all the old acronyms, we won't...
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