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Forum: Tech Log
27th Feb 2012, 08:39
Replies: 103
Views: 47,177
Posted By 737Jock

:ugh: you might want to read john's reply...

:ugh: you might want to read john's reply explaining why the 2,4% can vary. This is definitely not the correct answer.


No the configuration in which the performance must be demonstrated is...
Forum: Tech Log
27th Feb 2012, 02:29
Replies: 103
Views: 47,177
Posted By 737Jock

Yes it does. The computer is updated every 2...

Yes it does. The computer is updated every 2 weeks /every month or so. It even gets modified for Notams, and has specified engine out procedures for each runway.

In addition you can add obstacles...
Forum: Tech Log
27th Feb 2012, 01:49
Replies: 103
Views: 47,177
Posted By 737Jock

Ok I let something do it for me, it is called a...

Ok I let something do it for me, it is called a computer. And what I said is exactly what it does.

Btw I'm in jaa/easa-land.
Forum: Tech Log
26th Feb 2012, 23:34
Replies: 103
Views: 47,177
Posted By 737Jock

Angel Haha I wish... Not for another few hours

Haha I wish... Not for another few hours
Forum: Tech Log
26th Feb 2012, 23:12
Replies: 103
Views: 47,177
Posted By 737Jock

Hi John I edited my post above. I simply...

Hi John

I edited my post above. I simply make a clear distinction between what we as operators should do far121.189 and what the certifying manufacturer should do far25.

Off course they are...
Forum: Tech Log
26th Feb 2012, 22:20
Replies: 103
Views: 47,177
Posted By 737Jock

I agree that any obstacles penetrating the 35ft...

I agree that any obstacles penetrating the 35ft obstacle clearance on a net takeoff path of 1,6% will lead to a higher required net takeoff path and thus gross takeoff path.

But this is a far...
Forum: Tech Log
26th Feb 2012, 21:32
Replies: 103
Views: 47,177
Posted By 737Jock

So according to FAR 25 within the WAT limits a 2...

So according to FAR 25 within the WAT limits a 2 engine jet is certified to achieve a steady 2,4% climb gradient.

Can you point me too a reference that says it only momentary?

I'm not sure what...
Forum: Tech Log
26th Feb 2012, 14:12
Replies: 103
Views: 47,177
Posted By 737Jock

Yes mutt I mixed up climb with obstacle, i was...

Yes mutt I mixed up climb with obstacle, i was thinking of it as 2nd segment limited and thought of it as a climb limit which is solely the case for the minimum regulatory climb gradient. When there...
Forum: Tech Log
26th Feb 2012, 13:56
Replies: 103
Views: 47,177
Posted By 737Jock

Ah yes obstacle limited is indeed the correct...

Ah yes obstacle limited is indeed the correct term.

John, I think you should read my previous post before you sent me to the schoolbenches.
Forum: Tech Log
26th Feb 2012, 08:48
Replies: 103
Views: 47,177
Posted By 737Jock

It is correct, as long as you are within WAT...

It is correct, as long as you are within WAT limits and there are no obstacles to consider you are not climb limited! Or are you suggesting that it is allowable to takeoff outside WAT limits?


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Forum: Tech Log
18th Feb 2012, 20:20
Replies: 103
Views: 47,177
Posted By 737Jock

The aircraft is certified at 2.4% for the 2nd...

The aircraft is certified at 2.4% for the 2nd segment. Within its flight envelope it will always make this. This is simple regulations. And you cannot depart outside the aircraft limitations (to...
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