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Forum: ATC Issues

14th Apr 2022, 17:45

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Radar contact / Identified

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Posted By 2 sheds

Agree entirely, ...! :-) But from the...

Agree entirely, ...! :-) But from the phraseology...

Confusion created by lack of attention to detail by ICAO, as with removing the term "short final" but then leaving a reference to it in a...

Forum: ATC Issues

5th Apr 2022, 08:42

Replies: 14

Radar contact / Identified

Views: 3,587

Posted By 2 sheds

Yes - and no! ICAO states the phrases RADAR...

Yes - and no! ICAO states the phrases RADAR CONTACT as well as IDENTIFIED. Under Termination of Service, there is a sort of implication that the latter term is relevant to ADS-B, but that "radar"...

Forum: ATC Issues

3rd Apr 2022, 17:26

Replies: 14

Radar contact / Identified

Views: 3,587

Posted By 2 sheds

Nothing more specific - just observing that not...

Nothing more specific - just observing that not only is it less than precise, but perhaps, in the context of controlled airspace, it is just not necessary.

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Forum: ATC Issues

3rd Apr 2022, 12:22

Replies: 14

Radar contact / Identified

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Posted By 2 sheds

...or current ICAO procedures/phraseology. ...

...or current ICAO procedures/phraseology.

Indeed - why not refer, certainly by RTF, to any source of a magic picture as radar - after all, it's all produced by radio transmissions!

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Forum: ATC Issues

1st Apr 2022, 10:52

Replies: 14

Radar contact / Identified

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Posted By 2 sheds

I have always thought that much of this is so...

I have always thought that much of this is so unnecessary and RTF-time wasting in the scenario of controlled airspace (other than the turn method - transponders or SSR can fail!). The appropriate...

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