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Forum: Tech Log
13th Nov 2007, 08:02
Replies: 106
Views: 16,476
Posted By bookworm

The title of the approach is actually ILS/DME 03L...

The title of the approach is actually ILS/DME 03L LATERAL OFFSET 03R, but your point stands. The minima are published as "Sidestep RWY 03R" in the straight-in section. But I think the approach...
Forum: Tech Log
12th Nov 2007, 14:33
Replies: 106
Views: 16,476
Posted By bookworm

(Thanks for the example.) I think you...

(Thanks for the example.)

I think you summarize it perfectly.

If ATC knows that a landing on 13L would be preferable from the outset, and 13R has circling minima published (most UK IAPs do...
Forum: Tech Log
12th Nov 2007, 10:55
Replies: 106
Views: 16,476
Posted By bookworm

OK. I think your assumption that the aircraft...

OK. I think your assumption that the aircraft forgoes the option of an instrument go-around merely by accepting that it can land on a different runway is verging on unreasonable. In my scenario, it...
Forum: Tech Log
11th Nov 2007, 14:11
Replies: 106
Views: 16,476
Posted By bookworm

I don't think we're actually disagreeing. The...

I don't think we're actually disagreeing. The swingover can be implemented in two ways: you describe them well, though the first example (circling approach) would serve the purposes of the question...
Forum: Tech Log
11th Nov 2007, 13:42
Replies: 106
Views: 16,476
Posted By bookworm

I still don't agree. PANS-OPS Vol 2 Part I...

I still don't agree.

PANS-OPS Vol 2 Part I Section 4 Ch 5
5.2.3 Circling approach
The circling approach contains the visual phase of flight after completing an instrument approach, to bring an...
Forum: Tech Log
11th Nov 2007, 11:54
Replies: 106
Views: 16,476
Posted By bookworm

I don't agree BOAC. IAP to one runway, landing...

I don't agree BOAC. IAP to one runway, landing on another is a circling approach.
Forum: Tech Log
11th Nov 2007, 10:54
Replies: 106
Views: 16,476
Posted By bookworm

Intruder I think this may be an unhelpful a...

Intruder

I think this may be an unhelpful a terminology difference. The ICAO term is "visual manoeuvring (circling)" for what is called a "circling approach" in the US. That is not the same as a...
Forum: Tech Log
11th Nov 2007, 09:58
Replies: 106
Views: 16,476
Posted By bookworm

There are only three sorts of approaches for IFR...

There are only three sorts of approaches for IFR flights contemplated by PANS-OPS and PANS-ATM:

1) A straight in instrument approach where the landing runway is the instrument runway

2) An...
Forum: Tech Log
10th Nov 2007, 19:32
Replies: 106
Views: 16,476
Posted By bookworm

Understood by whom, exactly? PANS-OPS says: ...

Understood by whom, exactly?

PANS-OPS says:

7.4 MISSED APPROACH PROCEDURE WHILE CIRCLING
7.4.1 If visual reference is lost while circling to land from an instrument approach, the missed...
Forum: Tech Log
6th Nov 2007, 15:39
Replies: 106
Views: 16,476
Posted By bookworm

Well remembered! AD 2.22 EHAM 2.8.3 ...

Well remembered!

AD 2.22 EHAM
2.8.3 Missed approach while circling to land (contrary to ICAO doc. 8168 (PANS-OPS))

* inform ATC and
* turn to the intended landing runway, intercept...
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