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Forum: Rumours & News
8th Oct 2007, 02:08
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Thanks for the responses, Bernd,...

Thanks for the responses, Bernd, armchairpilot94116.



Or an inaccuracy in the diagram of the aircraft's path? :)

Bernd, perhaps I'd better recapitulate what I originally said:-
Forum: Rumours & News
7th Oct 2007, 13:54
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

With all due respect, Bernd, I did. From the...

With all due respect, Bernd, I did. From the Report:-

"The aircraft touch down at 1,750 feet on Runway 10, and rolling off 321 feet from the end of Runway 10. The aircraft stopped in the northern...
Forum: Rumours & News
7th Oct 2007, 04:02
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

But it's possible (and perfectly logical) to...

But it's possible (and perfectly logical) to prioritise them, barit1.

You have a glass coffee-table in your dimly-lit living-room. Hurrying to answer the phone, you forget that the table is...
Forum: Rumours & News
7th Oct 2007, 02:31
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Sorry, PBL, DingerX, but I think the logic of...

Sorry, PBL, DingerX, but I think the logic of those statements is just plain awry.

Congonhas is the fourth recorded serious occurrence of this type - and the major points of similarity are:-
...
Forum: Rumours & News
4th Oct 2007, 11:58
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Thanks for the question, Rob - cost me a bit of...

Thanks for the question, Rob - cost me a bit of researching time, but it's actually uncovered something of a new angle. Before I explain, apologies all round; I usually make an effort to keep my...
Forum: Rumours & News
3rd Oct 2007, 15:06
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

In this and other specific cases of one TL not...

In this and other specific cases of one TL not being retarded, given that there is clear evidence that the pilots were confused and unable to identify what had gone wrong, yes, I'm convinced, EMIT....
Forum: Rumours & News
3rd Oct 2007, 00:47
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

That (minus the extra wording! :)) was basically...

That (minus the extra wording! :)) was basically what the Taiwan investigators recommended, 3Ten; that the 'Retard' call should just continue until it was complied with.

Instead, no doubt for...
Forum: Rumours & News
2nd Oct 2007, 05:12
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

A few points to answer yours, electricjetjock,...

A few points to answer yours, electricjetjock, and possibly show more clearly where we're coming from (some of us, anyway).



That's maybe 80% probable, but not certain. All we know is that...
Forum: Rumours & News
1st Oct 2007, 16:00
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Surely that's just not so in this particular...

Surely that's just not so in this particular case, DW? The pilot told this computer to deploy the ground spoilers and activate the autobrakes on touchdown?

It didn't.
Forum: Rumours & News
1st Oct 2007, 15:38
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Forgive me, but you sound a bit desperate,...

Forgive me, but you sound a bit desperate, DozyWannabe.

The Teneriffe accident was in 1997 - and had nothing at all to do with the design of either aircraft. Lauda Air was in 1991 - and reverse...
Forum: Rumours & News
1st Oct 2007, 13:08
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

In that connection, DW, can't resist contributing...

In that connection, DW, can't resist contributing a quote from a beautifully-balanced press report, years ago, from the redoubtable Jim Wallace of the Seattle PI, on the differing design philosophies...
Forum: Rumours & News
1st Oct 2007, 10:49
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Endeavouring to 'keep it simple' in my turn,...

Endeavouring to 'keep it simple' in my turn, PK-KAR. :)

Had they been able to deploy the spoilers manually, 'worst case' is that they'd have come off the end at much lower (probably surviveable)...
Forum: Rumours & News
1st Oct 2007, 01:30
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Yes Rob21, that as well. Which just makes it even...

Yes Rob21, that as well. Which just makes it even MORE anomalous that the systems are apparently 'designed to leave' ('capable of leaving' is maybe a better choice of phrase) the go-around option...
Forum: Rumours & News
1st Oct 2007, 00:52
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Sorry, Austrian Simon, omitted to mention that...

Sorry, Austrian Simon, omitted to mention that you had posted along similar lines. I'm afraid that I get 'battle fatigue' nowadays reading really-long posts. :)

Obviously I agree, except that...
Forum: Rumours & News
1st Oct 2007, 00:29
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Yes, Avionista, you're quite right to ask that in...

Yes, Avionista, you're quite right to ask that in my view - it is a question Airbus will eventually have to address very seriously. Indeed, I hope that it is ALREADY being addressed. There is a real...
Forum: Rumours & News
30th Sep 2007, 04:08
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Absolutely, ChristiaanJ - thanks are due to BOAC...

Absolutely, ChristiaanJ - thanks are due to BOAC for mentioning the Potholer post, I'd forgotten it. Can't help feeling that we're on the right track - 'gut feeling' only, though.

Couple more...
Forum: Rumours & News
29th Sep 2007, 17:59
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Dead right, in my opinion, Christianj. The...

Dead right, in my opinion, Christianj.

The most important 'accidents' are the hundreds every day that DON'T happen - because skilful pilots realise what is going wrong, and put things right in...
Forum: Rumours & News
29th Sep 2007, 17:30
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Wow, BOAC, spot on (quoting Potholer):- ...

Wow, BOAC, spot on (quoting Potholer):-

"This, to me, is so relevant; happened to me when I was a brand new skipper, first flight after a month's vacation, new FO, dispatch with one reverser...
Forum: Rumours & News
29th Sep 2007, 16:37
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

As to 'how,' any way I could, Bernd. As to...

As to 'how,' any way I could, Bernd. As to 'expect,' 'hope' (like hell!) would be a better word.

All I know is, I reckon that I'd have a damn sight better chance of getting useful (meaning...
Forum: Rumours & News
29th Sep 2007, 15:21
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Nor can any of the rest of us, HotDog - but the...

Nor can any of the rest of us, HotDog - but the fact remains that (according to the FDRs, anyway) it has happened on A320s not once, but three times; at Bacolod, Taipei, and now Congonhas. All of...
Forum: Rumours & News
29th Sep 2007, 01:43
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

My post crossed with your much more interesting...

My post crossed with your much more interesting one, marciovp.

I think one can make some sense of it - but the implications are huge.

"This sound warning played during three seconds in the...
Forum: Rumours & News
29th Sep 2007, 01:06
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Oops, sorry to jump down your throat then - guess...

Oops, sorry to jump down your throat then - guess we'll all have consider making more use of sub-headings etc. :) - in that spirit:-

Recommended Strategy for Airbus (if the case goes to court):-...
Forum: Rumours & News
28th Sep 2007, 12:27
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Have cordially to disagree with that, PBL; and...

Have cordially to disagree with that, PBL; and therefore with much of the rest of your anaysis. The task is (not 'was') to ensure that pilots correctly identify their problem as a wrongly-positioned...
Forum: Rumours & News
28th Sep 2007, 01:59
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Thanks Rob21, PBL, marciovp, lots of excellent...

Thanks Rob21, PBL, marciovp, lots of excellent information.

There's actually some scope for optimism now that accidents of this type may be avoided in the future.

It's almost inevitable in...
Forum: Rumours & News
27th Sep 2007, 11:27
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

I do actually know that, Lemurian - that's why I...

I do actually know that, Lemurian - that's why I mentioned 'HOT-2.'

I started off trying to discover which of the two pilots actually flew the landing. I still don't know; do you?

Captain di...
Forum: Rumours & News
27th Sep 2007, 07:56
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Thanks, PBL. As you'll gather, I'm still puzzling...

Thanks, PBL. As you'll gather, I'm still puzzling over the 'human factor' angle, either one of two such experienced pilots making such a basic mistake.

According to this (AP) account, Captain di...
Forum: Rumours & News
27th Sep 2007, 05:00
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Thanks, marciovp. But just to get it straight,...

Thanks, marciovp. But just to get it straight, were things as follows (according to the FDR, anyway)?

1. Porto Alegre landing - Pilot Flying ex-737, both levers put into reverse.

2....
Forum: Rumours & News
27th Sep 2007, 02:52
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

As I understand it, this crew only did two...

As I understand it, this crew only did two landings. In the first, one lever was put to idle, the other to reverse; the second flight being the accident. One landing was made by a different crew, who...
Forum: Rumours & News
27th Sep 2007, 02:40
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Many thanks, IFixPlanes. Must admit...

Many thanks, IFixPlanes.



Must admit to being confused - was this mod always in the document, in that specific form, or was it inserted or amended later (i.e. in Rev. 2 virtually on the day...
Forum: Rumours & News
26th Sep 2007, 15:48
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

DW, is there any possibility that we could leave...

DW, is there any possibility that we could leave the crucifixions until Easter? :)

The lawyers won't even be getting their second wind on the task of settling this case until about two years from...
Forum: Rumours & News
26th Sep 2007, 02:17
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

alf, it's well worth downloading and reading the...

alf, it's well worth downloading and reading the whole Report - it's admirably clear, well set out, and appears to have been well-translated: which reduces the scope for speculation. :)

The...
Forum: Rumours & News
25th Sep 2007, 15:58
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Of course I have, DW, otherwise I wouldn't say...

Of course I have, DW, otherwise I wouldn't say it. :)

To quote the October 2004 Taiwan Report for the third time:-



Download the whole Report and read it if you like.
Forum: Rumours & News
25th Sep 2007, 14:34
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

Airbus said in 2004 that they HAD developed it,...

Airbus said in 2004 that they HAD developed it, Dozy, not that they WERE developing it.

In any case, for the reasons I explained, there isn't much point in speculating on why they didn't issue an...
Forum: Rumours & News
25th Sep 2007, 01:49
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

alf, the principal point made by the (very...

alf, the principal point made by the (very competent) Taiwanese investigators back in 2004 was that the 'Retard' call cuts out after touchdown, whether or not the levers are in the correct position....
Forum: Rumours & News
24th Sep 2007, 16:08
Replies: 2,761
Views: 739,058
Posted By RWA

PBL, with respect (I mean that sincerely, I've...

PBL, with respect (I mean that sincerely, I've often admired your meticulous and penetrating reports on air accidents) you seem to be wandering off on a path of your own.

The factual situation is...
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