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Forum: Tech Log
14th May 2018, 08:12
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

DP planning is not atomic science and whatever...

DP planning is not atomic science and whatever you are capable of understanding why wouldn't I understand? Your perception of procedures and regulations is different. Haven't we seen that before? I...
Forum: Tech Log
14th May 2018, 05:21
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

Goldenrivette We are going round in circles. I...

Goldenrivette
We are going round in circles. I hope you get the facts right. You can disagree if I express an opinion but not with the regulations
Read my post #24 and #38. You are an airbus pilot...
Forum: Tech Log
13th May 2018, 15:33
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

Example? The whole thread is about that. RTOW Ldg...

Example? The whole thread is about that. RTOW Ldg Wt Ltd? Practical is carry extra and burn it before landing but not allowed to do so unless you manipulate the BO. Why? Practical is to carry minimum...
Forum: Tech Log
13th May 2018, 13:21
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

new_era I corrected my post. I was dealing with...

new_era
I corrected my post. I was dealing with two different scenarios caused the confusion.
Forum: Tech Log
13th May 2018, 13:17
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

The quote is about post #69 which is in reply to...

The quote is about post #69 which is in reply to another thread by pineteam where in a VFR flight plan there is no alternate fuel all you have is 30min extra. The rest deals with Golden's example...
Forum: Tech Log
13th May 2018, 11:44
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

Goldenrivette Before I answer your question, in...

Goldenrivette
Before I answer your question, in support of my post I will quote from IFALPA(ICAO) document you referred.
4.3.7.2 The pilot-in-command shall continually ensure that the amount of...
Forum: Tech Log
13th May 2018, 08:11
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

pineteam What you discussed in that thread had...

pineteam
What you discussed in that thread had many riders and a lot of confusion. Since you mentioned an alternate, it is an IFR flight plan with alternate required. Then it requires usual fuel A...
Forum: Tech Log
10th May 2018, 16:10
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

why not just call it landing weight? Max landing...

why not just call it landing weight? Max landing weight is a limitation that is structural. When you calculate the RTOW for that take off weight a certain landing weight results. We don't calculate...
Forum: Tech Log
10th May 2018, 11:26
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

I am unable to understand the meaning of this...

I am unable to understand the meaning of this statement. What's the difference between MLW and structural mlw?
Forum: Tech Log
10th May 2018, 11:05
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

A particular aircraft has only one ZFW. It is not...

A particular aircraft has only one ZFW. It is not variable but there can be some versions of the same model with different certified ZFW.
Forum: Tech Log
9th May 2018, 17:30
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

As long as the load sheet shows all weights below...

As long as the load sheet shows all weights below or equal to limit weights it's fine. As I have been pointing out some people relate RTOW only to takeoff. That's not so, even landing and GA...
Forum: Tech Log
9th May 2018, 11:50
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

Goldenrivett Far too many variations have got...

Goldenrivett
Far too many variations have got in the original question and we are going around in circles. IFR flight/VFR flight, Alternate required/not required/not available, remote destination...
Forum: Tech Log
9th May 2018, 05:48
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

Golden rivette and Pineteam If you read...

Golden rivette and Pineteam
If you read carefully the reference you have given it only confirms what I am saying. You are supposed to keep track of fuel consumption all along in cruise and you are...
Forum: Tech Log
8th May 2018, 13:14
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

Bergerie 1 I am afraid I have to disagree....

Bergerie 1
I am afraid I have to disagree. There are many occasions when civil aviation authority officials come on board after landing and check the fuel remaining. They don't want to to know your...
Forum: Tech Log
8th May 2018, 03:18
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

The point I have been making is that Regulatory...

The point I have been making is that Regulatory Takeoff Weight has limitation that arise from approach and landing part. What you intend to do at landing is not enough the loads sheet before takeoff...
Forum: Tech Log
7th May 2018, 17:49
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

Bergerie1 Rules, SOPs and overbearing...

Bergerie1
Rules, SOPs and overbearing management are different things. When it comes to regulatory requirements there is simply no option but to follow them. Breaching SOP and management decisions...
Forum: Tech Log
7th May 2018, 04:16
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

Important thing to understand is that RTOW Ldg Wt...

Important thing to understand is that RTOW Ldg Wt Ltd. is a regulatory takeoff weight limitation and it legally controls takeoff weight it has nothing to do with what weight actual landing is carried...
Forum: Tech Log
7th May 2018, 03:10
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

Feather you're absolutely correct. I am not...

Feather
you're absolutely correct. I am not suggesting OW landing that is also a limitation just trying to show the incorrectness of planning OW landing RTOW. And new_era I already said that BO...
Forum: Tech Log
6th May 2018, 18:15
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

Bergerie and dastocks I hope you are aware that...

Bergerie and dastocks
I hope you are aware that one of the conditions of RTOW is landing weight limit. It is not a question of what you did or what is possible. RTOW Landing wt. Limited is legal...
Forum: Tech Log
5th May 2018, 16:53
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

No! You can't. Arithmetically possible but not...

No! You can't. Arithmetically possible but not legally. RTOW Landing weight limited means just that. It is applicable for takeoff. You cannot legally exceed that and then burn extra to get within...
Forum: Tech Log
5th May 2018, 15:00
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

No! We don't. RTOW can restrict ZFW. ZFW doesn't...

No! We don't. RTOW can restrict ZFW. ZFW doesn't restrict RTOW. Because when RTOW is restrictive you cannot reduce required fuel so only ZFW has to be reduced. Just go the way I said in my earlier...
Forum: Tech Log
5th May 2018, 06:09
Replies: 81
Views: 15,652
Posted By vilas

If you go about this way it is easier to...

If you go about this way it is easier to understand. Fuel reqd.13.5+61(planned zfw)=74.5 which is less than 79.0T Max structural (actually WAT limited weight). So in this case the take off weight is...
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