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28th Feb 2009, 09:21
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It is really distateful that this turf fight is...

It is really distateful that this turf fight is now fought in public. And actually with both sides going head-to-head, it looks like whoever got the CVR and FDR first, would not have given the data...
28th Feb 2009, 09:00
Replies: 2,906
Views: 1,450,524
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Unctuous, Somebody already did, and...

Unctuous,



Somebody already did, and somebody else already posted the link here, but it was later removed.

airdisaster.info • View topic - THY Turkish 737-800 crash lands at Amsterdam...
27th Feb 2009, 13:29
Replies: 2,906
Views: 1,450,524
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Now that the mode-S derived tracks are available,...

Now that the mode-S derived tracks are available, did more people notice that the intercept of the localizer happened after passing the Final Approach Fix? The FAF is 6.2 nm from the threshold, but...
26th Feb 2009, 23:06
Replies: 2,906
Views: 1,450,524
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For those that do not know Mr van Vollenhoven: ...

For those that do not know Mr van Vollenhoven:

The "Mr" is not a generic gender title. In Dutch, this signifies a Masters degree in Law. He also happens to be a University Professor (in Risk...
26th Feb 2009, 16:08
Replies: 2,906
Views: 1,450,524
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Apprentice is not a Dutch word. Not even close to...

Apprentice is not a Dutch word. Not even close to a Dutch word. So before putting this into context, consider that a Dutch word was first translated into English, leading to the word Apprentice....
26th Feb 2009, 12:59
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That's not quite true. I'm very familiar with...

That's not quite true. I'm very familiar with that area and to be honest, if the pilots had any decision room left at that stage, they made the perfect decision as to where to land the plane.
...
25th Feb 2009, 16:43
Replies: 2,906
Views: 1,450,524
Posted By BackPacker

If they're dead, removing them immediately is not...

If they're dead, removing them immediately is not going to make a difference to them anymore. Ghastly as that may sound.

But their position (who occupied which seat, who was holding which lever,...
25th Feb 2009, 16:33
Replies: 2,906
Views: 1,450,524
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TK pilot on airliners.net claims the plane took...

TK pilot on airliners.net claims the plane took off with 12.2 tons of fuel on board, with trip fuel calculated at 8.1.

TK B738 Crash At Amsterdam - Part 3 — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net...
25th Feb 2009, 15:58
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Views: 1,450,524
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We haven't had much rain here in the last few...

We haven't had much rain here in the last few days but this is reclaimed land lying (at the point of the crash) some 10 feet below sea level. The soil is thick sea clay - the type that stays wet-ish...
25th Feb 2009, 13:56
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Views: 1,450,524
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Except for the probable position that Bye...

Except for the probable position that Bye offered, the altitude, speed and heading would be consistent with a vector that would line up the aircraft to intercept the ILS. Schiphol vectors at 2000'...
25th Feb 2009, 12:42
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Posted By BackPacker

Which is *exactly* on the ILS 18R. I just don't...

Which is *exactly* on the ILS 18R. I just don't know if 149 knots is normal at this stage - I don't fly jets.



I heard the extracts too but they were from a ground frequency. Essentially ATC...
25th Feb 2009, 12:23
Replies: 2,906
Views: 1,450,524
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The accident site is about 2 km from the...

The accident site is about 2 km from the threshold 18R. As near as I can make it on the approach charts, the aircraft should have been at a little more than 355 feet altitude over there. Threshold...
25th Feb 2009, 11:45
Replies: 2,906
Views: 1,450,524
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Press conference confirms 9 dead, 50+ wounded, of...

Press conference confirms 9 dead, 50+ wounded, of which 25+ severely. Time of crash nailed at 10.31, but not a whole lot more information. They are busy composing the passenger list. No speculations...
25th Feb 2009, 11:29
Replies: 2,906
Views: 1,450,524
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Dutch TV just did a phone interview with one of...

Dutch TV just did a phone interview with one of the passengers.

Normal flight up to final approach, reports of turbulence/instability after which the plane sort of fell out of the sky into the...
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