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Forum: Tech Log
8th Jul 2010, 20:45
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

DANGER, WILL ROBINSON!!! Don't forget that,...

DANGER, WILL ROBINSON!!!

Don't forget that, in the US at least, ATC is no longer liable for their mistakes, including failure to correct pilots for wrong readbacks. Per an FAA publication a year...
Forum: Tech Log
8th Jul 2010, 20:41
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

I agree with you in the respect that it's better...

I agree with you in the respect that it's better to ask ATC for EXACTLY what you want, and confirm with them if there is any question or confusion.

However, I am addressing the OP's question...
Forum: Tech Log
8th Jul 2010, 15:33
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

The holding pattern at KELON is listed for 230...

The holding pattern at KELON is listed for 230 KIAS max at (according to your interpretation of Zp) 5000'. If cleared for the approach and needing to descend, it is likely that a pilot would extend...
Forum: Tech Log
8th Jul 2010, 04:29
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

You only need to do the "full circuit" if time...

You only need to do the "full circuit" if time requires it. That defines the MAXIMUM protected airspace, not the required track. If you are cleared for the approach and can get down in a 360, then...
Forum: Tech Log
8th Jul 2010, 02:29
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

I understand that it may be the normal way of...

I understand that it may be the normal way of doing business, but is it according to "the book"? IIRC, that's [part of] what the OP was asking.

I've also heard of the Italian "You know where you...
Forum: Tech Log
7th Jul 2010, 23:54
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

That's the first time I've seen a French govt...

That's the first time I've seen a French govt approach plate, so I had no idea what Zp is.

However, if ATC cleared the airplane to KELON at 8000, then that airspace should be clear of interfering...
Forum: Tech Log
7th Jul 2010, 16:27
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

After looking at the approach plate, it is even...

After looking at the approach plate, it is even more clear to me that if I was cleared for the approach and direct to the KELON IAF at 8000', I would continue to KELON at 8000' and use the depicted...
Forum: Tech Log
7th Jul 2010, 01:28
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

First, I tried to find the cited approach...

First, I tried to find the cited approach on-line, but was unable, so I don't know what it looks like.

For many/most non-precision approaches, the IAF altitude is a "soft" (recommended) or an "at...
Forum: Tech Log
5th Jul 2010, 22:49
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

If true, where is it written?

If true, where is it written?
Forum: Tech Log
5th Jul 2010, 22:46
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

I did. There are no differences from ICAO...

I did. There are no differences from ICAO procedures cited for descent clearances.
Forum: Tech Log
5th Jul 2010, 22:39
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

If I didn't comprehend, I wouldn't have cited the...

If I didn't comprehend, I wouldn't have cited the VERY RECENTLY CHANGED differences in arrival procedure differences in the US and UK.

However, NOBODY here, including the French ATC, has offered...
Forum: Tech Log
5th Jul 2010, 06:26
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

Once again, do not confuse clearance to descend...

Once again, do not confuse clearance to descend ON THE APPROACH -- either after passing the IAF or after intercepting the approach course inside the IAF -- with descent PRIOR TO the approach. There...
Forum: Tech Log
4th Jul 2010, 15:45
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

You were cleared to a fix, descend to 8000. Do...

You were cleared to a fix, descend to 8000. Do that.

You were then cleared for the approach. The fix to which you are currently cleared happens to be the IAF. Your clearance before the approach...
Forum: Tech Log
3rd Jul 2010, 23:06
Replies: 79
Views: 25,402
Posted By Intruder

If you are cleared direct to the IAF and cleared...

If you are cleared direct to the IAF and cleared for the approach, YOU MUST MAINTAIN LAST ASSIGNED ALTITUDE UNTIL YOU REACH THE IAF!!! Since you are not on any published procedure, you must adhere...
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