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Forum: Rumours & News
11th Feb 2010, 16:33
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

EB Missfit If you look back (if it is...

EB Missfit

If you look back (if it is possible) at the previous two "mega-threads" covering this accident, you would see that we have covered the water content of the fuel (both in conjunction...
Forum: Rumours & News
9th Feb 2010, 18:59
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Pettifogger ; " .........the AAIB's report...

Pettifogger ;

" .........the AAIB's report to be well researched, well written and comprehensive in scope. I believe that they have reached the right conclusions and have provided sufficient...
Forum: Rumours & News
9th Feb 2010, 17:40
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

DERG, That report is not a very good...

DERG,

That report is not a very good summary, and certainly even ignores to main report's glossing over of the actual water content issue.

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Forum: Rumours & News
9th Feb 2010, 07:53
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

(PART TWO of TWO) NN:- From...

(PART TWO of TWO)



NN:- From 1.18.1.5 ;

“………. During this investigation very hard, dense ice was found in the bottom of the aircraft main fuel tanks and occasionally, during the testing,...
Forum: Rumours & News
9th Feb 2010, 07:48
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

(PART ONE of TWO) One needs to read the...

(PART ONE of TWO)


One needs to read the whole report, however some highlights that I THINK relevant ;


AA:- From “Synopsis” ;

“2) Ice had formed within the fuel system, from water...
Forum: Rumours & News
9th Feb 2010, 07:43
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

I'm amazed. I'll do my reply in a couple...

I'm amazed.

I'll do my reply in a couple (or more) posts, the first a summary and the other(s) some extracts.

I have ploughed my way through the report and am extremely unimpressed.

I...
Forum: Rumours & News
19th Jan 2010, 07:33
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

The heater exchange mods are only valid for a set...

The heater exchange mods are only valid for a set of unrepresentative tests.

The tests themselves raised supposedly previously unknown behaviour of fuel/water mixtures (?????).

SO;

1: ...
Forum: Rumours & News
17th Jan 2010, 13:13
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

I agree with your sentiment, however; ...

I agree with your sentiment, however;

"...... It is my understanding that all BA RR powered B777s now have modified fuel/oil heat exchangers fitted and so the apparent dangers appear to have...
Forum: Rumours & News
17th Jan 2010, 08:55
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

So, the second anniversary, and apart from a lot...

So, the second anniversary, and apart from a lot of very grateful passengers has anything been decided ?

Any ideas on progress on the scientific tests, or another interim report ?

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Forum: Rumours & News
3rd Dec 2009, 08:08
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

No, that is a possibility which has only been...

No, that is a possibility which has only been indicated by unrepresentative tests.

There is no present solution, and it would seem that any solution (assuming the basic conditions were as...
Forum: Rumours & News
26th Oct 2009, 18:39
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

I fully accept that if there are suspicions...

I fully accept that if there are suspicions raised of peculiar behaviour in the icing behaviour of fuel it should be investigated, and not for just one engine/aircraft set-up, but for all.
...
Forum: Rumours & News
16th Aug 2009, 16:03
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Re. water amounts/tests IF you had bothered...

Re. water amounts/tests

IF you had bothered to look at the thread, and the second interim report you will see that the tests are on "out of spec" fuel (90 ppm ????) and were still faked/forced to...
Forum: Rumours & News
3rd Aug 2009, 16:58
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

If people would read the thread rather than just...

If people would read the thread rather than just skimming it, they would see that the second interim report only got indications of fuel slush icing up the heat exchanger by going totally away from...
Forum: Rumours & News
4th Jun 2009, 22:04
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Still not madly keen on the interim report. ...

Still not madly keen on the interim report.

They still used the "wrong" fuel condition (90 not 70 ppm water) in the tests (for the perfectly valid reason that that is the industry standard so it...
Forum: Rumours & News
19th Mar 2009, 08:13
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

I would again point out that the ice accretion...

I would again point out that the ice accretion photo, tests, etc.... have all come from UNREPRESENTATIVE tests using unrepresentative fuel.

Before trying to redesign everything, a proper...
Forum: Rumours & News
16th Mar 2009, 22:43
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Airfoilmod ; Boeing has addressed, and NTSB...

Airfoilmod ;

Boeing has addressed, and NTSB reviewed, the mechanism thus far. NTSB claims another incident is likely without a change in the 777-200ER. FAA has yet to speak since its AD...
Forum: Rumours & News
16th Mar 2009, 08:38
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Why can't people accept the Boeing and RR...

Why can't people accept the Boeing and RR findings and recommendations?

They are no more than interim.

They used non-representative fuel, and unless they are being very odd haven't managed to...
Forum: Rumours & News
16th Mar 2009, 08:32
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Airfoilmod : .............. What I...

Airfoilmod :


.............. What I think would be fascinating is a hard copy made available of this thread. Warts and All. Informal Hangar Talk with the odd expert poking in now and again, a...
Forum: Rumours & News
15th Mar 2009, 12:18
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

As people seem to be taking the NTSB press...

As people seem to be taking the NTSB press release a little bit too far, I will repeat what I wrote in post 2282 :-

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From the NTSB press...
Forum: Rumours & News
13th Mar 2009, 08:14
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Having slept on it, I believe the AAIB interim...

Having slept on it, I believe the AAIB interim Report no. 2 is rather odd.

If one believes in a total safety (non-commercial) attitude, then three cheers, but I do feel that the NTSB and FAA have...
Forum: Rumours & News
13th Mar 2009, 07:59
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Quote : Phil, I beleive it does at least...

Quote :

Phil, I beleive it does at least allude to where it came from...

The varied (and higher levels) of water can come from less than homogeneous distribution in the tank, but mainly from...
Forum: Rumours & News
12th Mar 2009, 23:43
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Water quantities. The AAIB Interim report...

Water quantities.

The AAIB Interim report no. 2 (my bold) states (page 7) that the

"... accident flight might have contained up to 70 ppm of dissolved and entrained (suspended) water ...." ...
Forum: Rumours & News
12th Mar 2009, 09:55
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

From the NTSB press release posted above :- ...

From the NTSB press release posted above :-

"......... These recommendations are being issued in response to the findings in two investigations - an accident and an incident - involving engine...
Forum: Rumours & News
4th Mar 2009, 08:20
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Airfoilmod, Where do you get your...

Airfoilmod,

Where do you get your scientific information ?

There seems not to have been enough ice to cause the icing - unless you know better (if so please state how you obtained it).
...
Forum: Rumours & News
2nd Mar 2009, 07:27
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

So Machaca, you are willing to go off thinking...

So Machaca, you are willing to go off thinking there is a solution to an unknown problem (where did the water come from), with an unknown process (the near-enough simultaneous timing and effect on...
Forum: Rumours & News
1st Mar 2009, 09:02
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Yet again. People seem to be reading too...

Yet again.

People seem to be reading too much into Boeing's leaks/announcements.

a: They still doesn't explain where the water came from.

b: They don't SEEM to explain the almost...
Forum: Rumours & News
27th Feb 2009, 06:48
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Airfoilmod, Please don't get me wrong, I...

Airfoilmod,

Please don't get me wrong, I like more information. All I worry about is that people MAY be being misled by short-term ideas or solutions. What is needed is a full scientific...
Forum: Rumours & News
26th Feb 2009, 16:52
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Fascinating -- but it doesn't actually address...

Fascinating -- but it doesn't actually address the process that MIGHT have caused the crash, or where the water came from.

Nor is it a set of rules that applies to ALL aircraft with all types...
Forum: Rumours & News
26th Feb 2009, 10:02
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Actually there seems just as few facts in that...

Actually there seems just as few facts in that piece as any other.

Still no information on where the "water" for the ice came from.

Still no information on the process whereby the ice formed...
Forum: Rumours & News
6th Feb 2009, 06:46
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Quote :- ......... Since it's obvious to me...

Quote :-

......... Since it's obvious to me that the industry (regulators, engine and airframers )did not know of this combination beforehand it just happend to be a RR installation that first...
Forum: Rumours & News
5th Feb 2009, 07:00
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

I am still extremely disturbed that people are...

I am still extremely disturbed that people are taking the (relatively unofficial) Boeing statement too seriously.

Any proper solution would need to explain the problem scientifically and...
Forum: Rumours & News
4th Feb 2009, 06:46
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

I'm a little disturbed by Boeing's AD. As a...

I'm a little disturbed by Boeing's AD.

As a purely precautionary document - three cheers (but does it add to anything more than last Autumn's FAA one ?).

However, it seems a little too...
Forum: Rumours & News
2nd Feb 2009, 06:56
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Quote : ....... But now think the 777RR...

Quote :

....... But now think the 777RR have new drills for crew to incease fuel flow to deal with the poss of water build up.

unquote


IF there is either a water in fuel or fuel...
Forum: Rumours & News
20th Jan 2009, 07:03
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

When people say that boeing are "testing the...

When people say that boeing are "testing the Trent" I PRESUME what they mean is that they are testing the pipework arrangements associated with the Trent type of installation as the engine per se...
Forum: Rumours & News
17th Jan 2009, 15:13
Replies: 3,239
Views: 1,137,470
Posted By phil gollin

Well ....... I suppose an "happy"...

Well ....... I suppose an "happy" anniversary is in order (?)


Quite a coincidence another no power landing in a city - but at least those circumstances seem to be known.

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