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Forum: Tech Log
2nd Nov 2012, 17:55
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

.....not a lot 'odder' than any other explanation...

.....not a lot 'odder' than any other explanation we have so far, Rouli. I do, however, feel that the preservation instinct would kick there and over-ride such 'structuring'.

Personally I don't...
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Nov 2012, 16:27
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

Yes, much better. So you accept that a pitch...

Yes, much better. So you accept that a pitch attitude can produce a sense of acceleration - I began to think from your previous that you didn't.

In relation to "are you serious?" it was your post ...
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Nov 2012, 15:42
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

- if you said "A somatogravic illusion can also...

- if you said "A somatogravic illusion can also be a false sensation of acceleration that results from perceiving as vertical the direction of non-vertical gravito-inertial acceleration or force"...
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Nov 2012, 13:54
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

Just so I do not cause unnecessary obfuscation on...

Just so I do not cause unnecessary obfuscation on this thread - I am NOT suggesting that somatogravic illusion contributed to the accident - I just do not know - I am merely trying to help HN39...
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Nov 2012, 13:28
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

- no - they refer to rotational effects and we...

- no - they refer to rotational effects and we are looking primarily at attitude based effects.

Did you see slide 20? The effect of 'head tilt' as they call it - 'nose up' attitude here - which...
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Nov 2012, 11:40
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

- and entitled, of course, but way off beam!...

- and entitled, of course, but way off beam! Perhaps you could tell us how you think a full motion sim produces a sustained feeling of acceleration (or deceleration)? - remembering, of course, that...
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Nov 2012, 09:39
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

- full motion simulators rely on this to generate...

- full motion simulators rely on this to generate the illusion of 'acceleration' by tilting the platform nose up! So, you are correct in that the actual pitch motion does not generate it, but the new...
Forum: Tech Log
1st Nov 2012, 18:04
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

LW - thank you for the support for the glove. (We...

LW - thank you for the support for the glove. (We can, no doubt, expect reams of code now to decide when it springs forth).:)

The thing that none of us can fathom is how PNF completely ignored the...
Forum: Tech Log
1st Nov 2012, 12:54
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

I think that nothing short of my 'boxing glove'...

I think that nothing short of my 'boxing glove' firing out of the panel (see aged post) would have helped either pilot. Whether the CPT would have twigged that both yokes back in the stomachs and...
Forum: Tech Log
30th Oct 2012, 17:54
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

....and silly me - there I was thinking they were...

....and silly me - there I was thinking they were already stalled too - what WERE they doing?:ugh:

PS Don't fancy flying wiv 'im. Going up should be ok, but...................
Forum: Tech Log
6th Oct 2012, 10:33
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

Quote: Originally Posted...

Quote:
Originally Posted by rrat
Suppose AF447 crew experienced a similar somatogravic illusion, and the deceleration of the aircraft caused PF to "feel" a...
Forum: Tech Log
30th Sep 2012, 17:27
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

The concept of 'limiting' normal THS movement was...

The concept of 'limiting' normal THS movement was proposed after the PGF crash, but seemed to go nowhere. I mooted a 'push to over-ride' button set at an appropriate value.
Forum: Tech Log
22nd Sep 2012, 14:17
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

You can all dress this up in whichever clothes...

You can all dress this up in whichever clothes you wish - the need for better 'control' systems on the AB, the way speeds are displayed, even badly written checklists, but the one big problem we...
Forum: Tech Log
19th Sep 2012, 09:09
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

I know this will go 'against the grain' for all...

I know this will go 'against the grain' for all those 'affectionados' of total computer control etc, but if my idea of a spring-loaded boxing glove in the panel is discarded, what is really need is a...
Forum: Tech Log
7th Sep 2012, 14:15
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

Lyman - I think I'm going to have to pass on your...

Lyman - I think I'm going to have to pass on your posts:ugh:
Forum: Tech Log
7th Sep 2012, 12:38
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

- think about that - these guys could not even...

- think about that - these guys could not even read an AI or altimeter.. - you have lost me there - wtf is one of those?
I don't believe there was a problem with N1 (apart from 'too many') or...
Forum: Tech Log
7th Sep 2012, 07:50
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

Hunter is absolutely right. Round and round we go...

Hunter is absolutely right. Round and round we go trying to produce the foolproof system, and we need to remember what they say about those.

As I said on 27 Aug here - all jolly good stuff, but we...
Forum: Tech Log
27th Aug 2012, 21:29
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

- and I would dearly like to know why, but as I...

- and I would dearly like to know why, but as I said months ago, I fear we are 'dancing on the head of a pin' here since the reaction of this crew was so out of the ordinary as to render, in my...
Forum: Tech Log
26th Aug 2012, 16:37
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

- I've heard tell a lot of pilots start with 'low...

- I've heard tell a lot of pilots start with 'low time', and in the 21st Century where most of us live, they then monitor autopilots for years (including the AF447 Captain).

They were NOT 'new and...
Forum: Tech Log
26th Aug 2012, 07:57
Replies: 1,064
Views: 186,168
Posted By BOAC

Flap flap flap:mad: - no they were not (for the...

Flap flap flap:mad: - no they were not (for the fithtieth time). They were not '300hr' pilots (for the thirtieth time.. - they WERE 'qualified'.

For g27 - there was NO severe turb

Either of...
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