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Forum: Tech Log

4th Jul 2012, 16:12

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AF 447 Thread No. 8

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Posted By BOAC

I must express some concern. clandestino, that...

I must express some concern. clandestino, that you do not consider

"The pitch attitude changes from
6° nose-down to 13° nose-up in
11 seconds then stabilises at
about 11° nose-up"

to be a...

Forum: Tech Log

3rd Jul 2012, 20:25

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AF 447 Thread No. 8

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Posted By BOAC

Spot on, franzl - that was logic gone mad. How...

Spot on, franzl - that was logic gone mad. How doe sit go? "To go up, pull back on the stick. To Go down, pull harder".

Aviation has always been about "is the result what I wanted". Output, as you...

Forum: Tech Log

28th Jun 2012, 15:05

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AF 447 Thread No. 8

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Posted By BOAC

Yes - indeed 'next time'. I firmly believe it is...

Yes - indeed 'next time'. I firmly believe it is a 'quality' issue in Air France that needs sorting. No need for FPV etc. Just ensure basic skills are in place and crew comms/monitoring are employed...

Forum: Tech Log

28th Jun 2012, 13:50

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AF 447 Thread No. 8

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Posted By BOAC

- er yes - I see the big grin there. You ARE...

- er yes - I see the big grin there. You ARE joking, aren't you?

Forum: Tech Log

28th Jun 2012, 07:32

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AF 447 Thread No. 8

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Posted By BOAC

- I have said this before and it need saying...

- I have said this before and it need saying gain. All this talk (1400+ posts now) about 'HUD' in relation to AF447 is a waste of time.

No-one will deny a HUD is a superb asset, of great use both...

Forum: Tech Log

25th Jun 2012, 12:33

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AF 447 Thread No. 8

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Posted By BOAC

- from what we know so far, 447 does not...

- from what we know so far, 447 does not represent a 'lapse of situational awareness' but a complete failure of any awareness by the crew. It is difficult for me to contemplate, even if woken from a...

Forum: Tech Log

25th Jun 2012, 07:04

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AF 447 Thread No. 8

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Posted By BOAC

- refer 'Retired F4' Post#1391.

- refer 'Retired F4' Post#1391.

Forum: Tech Log

24th Jun 2012, 15:24

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AF 447 Thread No. 8

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Posted By BOAC

possibly, but what is wrong with learning to fly...

possibly, but what is wrong with learning to fly as a system? As far as "subtle cues (or even stronger ones)" goes, I would recommend a spring-loaded boxing glove inset into both P1 and P2 main...

Forum: Tech Log

24th Jun 2012, 10:12

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AF 447 Thread No. 8

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Posted By BOAC

"Now, you do know that some monkeys have been...

"Now, you do know that some monkeys have been trained to use them!" - not, apparently, in Air France:mad:

Forum: Tech Log

24th Jun 2012, 08:16

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AF 447 Thread No. 8

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Posted By BOAC

Round and round we go, HUD this and AoA that....

Round and round we go, HUD this and AoA that. Yes, AoA is good. Yes HUD is good - I have used both. I am 100% certain that this crew would not even have noticed either since they appear to have not...

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14th Jun 2012, 16:18

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AF 447 Thread No. 8

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Posted By BOAC

We are heading for 1300 posts now, and the oozlum...

We are heading for 1300 posts now, and the oozlum burd is circling once again. SURELY wheter or not 5 degrees is 'right' or 'wrong' is immaterial in this accident? Had the crew maintained 5 degrees...

Forum: Tech Log

2nd Jun 2012, 07:45

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AF 447 Thread No. 8

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Posted By BOAC

PJ - it certainly looks as you say that the QRH...

PJ - it certainly looks as you say that the QRH was not well written and that 'inclusion' of the 'Above MSA/Cct Alt' in the memory box 'immediate actions' would have been a better presentation (as...

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