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Forum: Tech Log
11th Aug 2011, 11:06
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

Thank you Captain G. An excellent summary by DL...

Thank you Captain G. An excellent summary by DL and I am completely in tune. Now, how do we get anyone to notice?
Forum: Tech Log
4th Aug 2011, 09:47
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

Thanks - I think I can see now which stick it is,...

Thanks - I think I can see now which stick it is, but why is there no 'Dual Input' warning at "2 h 12 min 59" onwards?

I also note (must have been asleep!) that the report says there " The...
Forum: Tech Log
4th Aug 2011, 07:50
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

Well, a quick look at the English version and it...

Well, a quick look at the English version and it is really awful to read.

A couple of queries - the BEA constantly refer to 'co-pilot's stick' without saying which one. Why is it not 'Captain's...
Forum: Tech Log
3rd Aug 2011, 17:04
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

- I wonder actually if the VS was 'high' enough...

- I wonder actually if the VS was 'high' enough to be either off scale or 'lurking' at the bottom and so not 'seen', since it is 'never there'?

and some cavemen can actually post links,...
Forum: Tech Log
3rd Aug 2011, 15:24
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

Has the English version been released yet and if...

Has the English version been released yet and if so anyone a link?
Forum: Tech Log
3rd Aug 2011, 12:33
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

We are now tending to go round in circles. ...

We are now tending to go round in circles.

AoA gauge - red herring - even if fitted and crews trained to use it, by the time anyone on 447 got to look at it it would have been severely 'off...
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Aug 2011, 16:27
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

Surely the THS MUST respond to SS elevator...

Surely the THS MUST respond to SS elevator demand? There can be no other function for it. The problem is that no-one KNEW that it had. This is either a basic lack of knowledge of the a/c or a total...
Forum: Tech Log
1st Aug 2011, 11:00
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

Saturn - no, not suggesting, just asking. It is...

Saturn - no, not suggesting, just asking. It is known that some European airlines are not as correct in resticting access to the flight deck as most UK ones (DB and SR of Virgin excepted, of course)...
Forum: Tech Log
1st Aug 2011, 09:46
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

I fear it is time to delve a little deeper into...

I fear it is time to delve a little deeper into the 'management' side of this.

Those of us with a little experience know that when (a less experienced) PF gets confused, it is pointless shouting...
Forum: Tech Log
31st Jul 2011, 18:39
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

- thanks for the warning, but now I know where it...

- thanks for the warning, but now I know where it is I'll find it.

Re: This 'neutral' position for the SS (#1128)- is it not spring centred?

If that strange pic by 'grity' represents the Right...
Forum: Tech Log
31st Jul 2011, 10:20
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

- ah - thanks for that. I am waiting for...

- ah - thanks for that. I am waiting for Wednesday to download that.

- and therein, as I'm sure you ?realise?, lies the problem.
Forum: Tech Log
31st Jul 2011, 07:47
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

Note for PJ2 - trying to follow your link to...

Note for PJ2 - trying to follow your link to 'P114', but please be aware that page numbers here are meaningless since they depend on individual settings of posts per page. If you can link to post...
Forum: Tech Log
30th Jul 2011, 14:39
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

So many contradictions and disagreements on...

So many contradictions and disagreements on translation - we will have to wait for Wednesday to see how BEA do at it, and to see the FDR traces annotated in English.

So far, what I see of this...
Forum: Tech Log
29th Jul 2011, 13:09
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

- where do you get this impression? We were told...

- where do you get this impression? We were told (in May, certainly) that it was recovering at one point. Who says
'irrecoverable'?
Forum: Tech Log
29th Jul 2011, 10:51
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

Try this...

Try this (http://www.bea.aero/fr/enquetes/vol.af.447/note29juillet2011.en.pdf) link for the English version. Work to do at AF.

Safety recs summarised at...
Forum: Tech Log
29th Jul 2011, 07:25
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

- yes, from the report of May, the 'difference'...

- yes, from the report of May, the 'difference' is that I am unable to ascertain exactly what sequence happened, while you appear to be able to! Anyway, 1230GMT today and hopefully we will know a lot...
Forum: Tech Log
28th Jul 2011, 16:00
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

No idea. The way the (English) report is written...

No idea. The way the (English) report is written (for what it is worth :mad:) there were at least 11 seconds before the a/c began its climb. I was going to sit quietly and await a better report...
Forum: Tech Log
28th Jul 2011, 15:45
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

- this is NOT what the May BEA report said -...

- this is NOT what the May BEA report said - perhaps you are 'clairvoyant' regarding the 28 July report? The stall warnings sounded BEFORE the climb.
Forum: Tech Log
26th Jul 2011, 17:05
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

- where do you see this and why would the nose...

- where do you see this and why would the nose 'have to drop'?
Forum: Tech Log
19th Jul 2011, 15:06
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

Whatever barometric anomalies you introduce into...

Whatever barometric anomalies you introduce into the theories, you still have to explain why two competent pilots allowed or caused the pitch attitude to change so dramatically without an apparent...
Forum: Tech Log
18th Jul 2011, 11:09
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

- heavens! What have we come to? Is it too much...

- heavens! What have we come to? Is it too much to ask of an AB pilot - I mean, like FLY an aeroplane, man??:ugh:
Forum: Tech Log
14th Jul 2011, 12:12
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

- post #288?

- post #288?
Forum: Tech Log
14th Jul 2011, 07:57
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

As I have said before, once the crew found...

As I have said before, once the crew found themselves with an 'unknown' ?60? degrees AOA at the top of the 'zoom', they were well outside any training environment we could contemplate. In terms of...
Forum: Tech Log
13th Jul 2011, 20:12
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

- er - my bit refers to 447, not...

- er - my bit refers to 447, not TC-JDN..............................:confused:
Forum: Tech Log
13th Jul 2011, 17:41
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

takata - post #235 - you accuse Bear of posting ...

takata - post #235 - you accuse Bear of posting "such a load of cr*ap about a subject" and then do it yourself. I repeat - there is NOTHING in the BEA report to tell you that the pilots caused the...
Forum: Tech Log
13th Jul 2011, 11:10
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

It might be a good idea to return this thread 'to...

It might be a good idea to return this thread 'to earth' with a brief summary of what we know.

Leaving aside what happened after the climb, what about the climb?

1) There is nothing in the BEA...
Forum: Tech Log
13th Jul 2011, 09:08
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

I'll chuck this (2000) paper in too if it helps. ...

I'll chuck this (2000) paper in too if it helps.

Fly-By-Wire A Primer for Aviation Accident Investigators (http://cf.alpa.org/internet/alp/2000/febfbw.htm)
Forum: Tech Log
12th Jul 2011, 16:56
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

PJ - having never handled a side-stick I have no...

PJ - having never handled a side-stick I have no idea what a 'normal' manual input would be to maintain level flight, but 3-4 cm seems excessive to me, and certainly 6" on a Boeing yoke would raise...
Forum: Tech Log
12th Jul 2011, 15:34
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

PJ - that fits with my understanding, so where...

PJ - that fits with my understanding, so where the *** does 7000fpm come from? That is one hell of a r o c for a 'transient nose-up followed by nose down'. To take your words "but was NU briefly...
Forum: Tech Log
12th Jul 2011, 14:24
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

- Hmm I thought that is what I posted, never...

- Hmm I thought that is what I posted, never mind! Specsavers?

The 'Nose-up demand' certainly does not fit with my 'understanding' of events (which again you MIGHT have noticed (Specsavers?)) but...
Forum: Tech Log
12th Jul 2011, 14:02
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

One area of confusion in my mind Chris S may be...

One area of confusion in my mind Chris S may be able to clear up. What I think I see here and from BEA is that the THS did not move from its cruise angle until the top of the zoom climb? Given that...
Forum: Tech Log
11th Jul 2011, 16:27
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

Chris - I understood that the C* in the AB...

Chris - I understood that the C* in the AB switched at around 210 kts so I would expect the FCS to be pitch rate driven during the 'climb' and not Nz, especially given the supposed low IAS readings?...
Forum: Tech Log
11th Jul 2011, 14:04
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

but I don't understand your concern. - I...

but I don't understand your concern. - I obviously did not express my 'concerns' simply enough. I have no issue with the hours of work folk have done on these images and they are 'interesting'. My...
Forum: Tech Log
11th Jul 2011, 10:56
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

- not quite sure w t f that means but it sounds...

- not quite sure w t f that means but it sounds like something my mum would not like me to do. I suspect we move in different social circles.

I see you have not contributed to my thread at all so...
Forum: Tech Log
11th Jul 2011, 07:32
Replies: 1,998
Views: 510,140
Posted By BOAC

- I'm afraid, that like many other inputs from...

- I'm afraid, that like many other inputs from many 'experts' on this huge sequence of threads, that is a complete mis-representation. If you read the other thread (Safety forum) you will discover...
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