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Forum: Tech Log

5th Jun 2011, 10:04

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AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

syseng - if you dig out the PGF Airbus accident...

syseng - if you dig out the PGF Airbus accident thread you will find some good flow charts of software logic there (I think from PJ2).

I am now reeling in a state of shock to find that there are...

Forum: Tech Log

3rd Jun 2011, 18:10

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AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

PJ - it was not really 'facetious' but a genuine...

PJ - it was not really 'facetious' but a genuine caution against DW's suggestion of putting the a/c straight into Direct when things go awry - it just would not fit with AB OR the airlines...

Forum: Tech Log

3rd Jun 2011, 13:33

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AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

- no bigger a pill than usual There I disagree -...

- no bigger a pill than usual There I disagree - it IS there to protect from 'bad piloting as such' and it does it very well in normal circumstances - things like excessive pitch, too high an AoA,...

Forum: Tech Log

3rd Jun 2011, 10:18

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AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

I quite agree but am pointing out that the...

I quite agree but am pointing out that the philosophy change, in ceasing to 'protect' the aircraft from piloting, at AB, would be too dramatic

Forum: Tech Log

3rd Jun 2011, 09:49

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AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

- an assumption only, based on no idea what the...

- an assumption only, based on no idea what the a/c was actually doing at the time! - come on now, you claim to be a 320 pilot. Surely you know that that would run counter to all AB philosophy of...

Forum: Tech Log

2nd Jun 2011, 18:51

Replies: 2,070

AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

- there you go - we are first told Stall warnings...

- there you go - we are first told Stall warnings are AoA driven now we 'read' they are IAS driven.

Those first two certainly puzzle me, whatever triggers them..

Forum: Tech Log

2nd Jun 2011, 17:45

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AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

The problem with the AB system appears to be that...

The problem with the AB system appears to be that no-one actually understands it so heaven help pilots caught in a software maze! Each AB 'expert' comes here and we get different shades of the event....

Forum: Tech Log

2nd Jun 2011, 07:28

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AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

- we both agree here - it really is less...

- we both agree here - it really is less significant who was in which seat, since both pilots were line-qualified. What IS significant, as I have said a few times (it really is crucial and we are not...

Forum: Tech Log

1st Jun 2011, 17:17

Replies: 2,070

AF447 Thread No. 3

Views: 612,796

Posted By BOAC

Here's another hare to start running. From Der...

Here's another hare to start running. From Der Spiegel, I believe:

"Just over a year ago, Hüttig recreated the Air France crash in a flight simulator. In the course of the exercise, Hüttig...

Forum: Tech Log

1st Jun 2011, 16:38

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AF447 Thread No. 3

Views: 612,796

Posted By BOAC

Here's another hare to start running. From Der...

Here's another hare to start running. From Der Spiegel, I believe:

"Just over a year ago, Hüttig recreated the Air France crash in a flight simulator. In the course of the exercise, Hüttig...

Forum: Tech Log

1st Jun 2011, 14:30

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AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

- missed the last 50 pages?:ugh:

- missed the last 50 pages?:ugh:

Forum: Tech Log

1st Jun 2011, 14:29

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AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

- I have never considered the 'media' here - I am...

- I have never considered the 'media' here - I am referring to the 'selective' release of inter-crew conversation from the CVR, no doubt, not the media.

Forum: Tech Log

1st Jun 2011, 14:18

Replies: 2,070

AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

- more than that. In my military days it was a...

- more than that. In my military days it was a given that if you were not starting a successful recovery from a spin (mentioned because of similar descent rates ONLY!) by 10,000 ft you ejected. I...

Forum: Tech Log

1st Jun 2011, 13:30

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AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

I am now of the view that the BEA 27 Mai release...

I am now of the view that the BEA 27 Mai release was bordering on mischievous - almost as if they were looking to see if they could fill PPRune with pages of posts (in which they succeeded).

Why...

Forum: Tech Log

29th May 2011, 17:21

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AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

Hyper my apologies - I missed the conjunction...

Hyper my apologies - I missed the conjunction between attitude and AoA which indicates more or less level flight at that moment.

The English translation I was seeking was to try to understand the...

Forum: Tech Log

29th May 2011, 14:57

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AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

- 11.5mb - please - anyone produce an English...

- 11.5mb - please - anyone produce an English extract for us?

I again see "16 degrees of pitch" mentioned at FL380. Where is this published? I see only increasing through 10 in the climb. People...

Forum: Tech Log

28th May 2011, 07:52

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AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

I stand by post#1 here...

I stand by post#1 here (http://www.pprune.org/safety-crm-qa-emergency-response-planning/379780-computers-cockpit-safety-aviation.html), posted nearly two years ago, and would repeat another post...

Forum: Tech Log

27th May 2011, 14:12

Replies: 2,070

AF447 Thread No. 3

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Posted By BOAC

Well, I'm no clearer now that I was! There are...

Well, I'm no clearer now that I was! There are too many inexplicable events to make sense of this, including pilot input and THS angle. It is unfortunate we do not have the RHS IAS readings, and I'm...

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