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Forum: Tech Log
31st Aug 2011, 07:38
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Posted By BOAC

Dear oh dear - this is certainly going the way of...

Dear oh dear - this is certainly going the way of all threads on this now diminished site.

Rather than all chase after shadows of '5 degrees is not right' and 'recovery from that sort of stall...
Forum: Tech Log
30th Aug 2011, 16:14
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

GM - thanks for the support but you will, I'm...

GM - thanks for the support but you will, I'm afraid, be hounded out of town by the baying mob for the rest. It is quite obvious why they did not recover from the stall. How they got to it is less...
Forum: Tech Log
30th Aug 2011, 15:14
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

- unfortunately that is incorrect. Both pilots...

- unfortunately that is incorrect. Both pilots were 'Qualified' and in the 'right place' at the 'right time'. Where you need to place the blame is on the nature of the 'qualification' and whether...
Forum: Tech Log
28th Aug 2011, 18:12
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

A lot of us are not............................:)

A lot of us are not............................:)
Forum: Tech Log
27th Aug 2011, 10:30
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

(Noted :ok:). Let's face it, that SHOULD be...

(Noted :ok:). Let's face it, that SHOULD be enough given a basic competence in the licensing and training of airline crews.
Forum: Tech Log
25th Aug 2011, 16:22
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By BOAC

Welsh - a good summary, I would, however, make...

Welsh - a good summary, I would, however, make the stall warning item the third type-related issue, and really what other types/manufacturers 'do' or 'did' is not relevant to this occurrence.

As...
Forum: Tech Log
24th Aug 2011, 21:19
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

- actually THAT is a fundamental...

- actually THAT is a fundamental mis-understanding of my post. Try substituting the players in 447 into the story. The parallel? The 'surprised' human factor (or 'interface' as some see it. Gulp) -...
Forum: Tech Log
24th Aug 2011, 13:26
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

- indeed it did and made it worse, and before...

- indeed it did and made it worse, and before that all pilots KNEW that they could stall an aircraft (and did as we know) by 'mishandling'. Following that they were told they could not (I have lost...
Forum: Tech Log
24th Aug 2011, 07:52
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

MBear - they did not need to know what had caused...

MBear - they did not need to know what had caused the loss of IAS indication. To apply backstick with a ridiculously low IAS flies in the face of any logic. I still find it difficult to accept any...
Forum: Tech Log
23rd Aug 2011, 19:55
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

Certainly makes sense

Certainly makes sense
Forum: Tech Log
23rd Aug 2011, 17:34
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Posted By BOAC

- I don't think we have any reason to suspect...

- I don't think we have any reason to suspect that any of the attitude indicators were not functioning properly - including the *** big ones in front of the pilots - unless someone is hiding...
Forum: Tech Log
18th Aug 2011, 08:16
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By BOAC

PJ2 - whatever you think of the "5 deg nose-up"...

PJ2 - whatever you think of the "5 deg nose-up" it would not have killed all. The a/c would have flown reasonably happily while the UAS drill was actioned. Any stall warning that might have been thus...
Forum: Tech Log
8th Aug 2011, 07:51
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

Zorin - I think the general drift is that when...

Zorin - I think the general drift is that when you sell a package that supposedly protects those silly humans from themselves, it should.
Forum: Tech Log
7th Aug 2011, 08:08
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

RWA - I think we are pretty well convinced by the...

RWA - I think we are pretty well convinced by the AB 'knowers' that there is no way PNF would know what PF was doing with the SS when airborne except by a/c manoeuvre. I also believe that the failure...
Forum: Tech Log
4th Aug 2011, 14:44
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

Also for @martinhauptman007's 'Captain' - I see...

Also for @martinhauptman007's 'Captain' - I see no evidence that the FDR thought there was an overspeed.
Forum: Tech Log
3rd Aug 2011, 16:58
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By BOAC

Out of interest, what happens in this 'computer...

Out of interest, what happens in this 'computer game' if the one who has 'lost' control then presses the button for the requisite time?
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Aug 2011, 11:14
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

- NB I am still waiting for Wednesday to download...

- NB I am still waiting for Wednesday to download the (English) report, but as I understand it the 'nose down' SS DID move the nose down? Did the stall warning not 'restart' as the IAS increased? Had...
Forum: Tech Log
1st Aug 2011, 21:40
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

- as I see it, there is a long-term 'whiff' of...

- as I see it, there is a long-term 'whiff' of 'conspiracy' - that will take time to blow away. The 'Concierge' is something that has created enormous damage and will take even longer, since it has...
Forum: Tech Log
1st Aug 2011, 18:54
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

- your last para was 'spot on' in my book. ...

- your last para was 'spot on' in my book.

Regarding the 'quote' - I think most of us, when we take that 'view', mean the way it has been trained for and implemented by operators rather than the...
Forum: Tech Log
31st Jul 2011, 18:42
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

Well, that's Rule 1 bust then - Stall Warning...

Well, that's Rule 1 bust then - Stall Warning logic?:ugh:

Shame the 'engineers responsible' didn't READ the wallpaper.
Forum: Tech Log
31st Jul 2011, 10:52
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

Hmm! So the clever software is not clever enough...

Hmm! So the clever software is not clever enough to know its altitude, and will eventually command a loop to maintain 1g?:) Don't forget it will also need GS in order to compute centripetal...
Forum: Tech Log
31st Jul 2011, 10:18
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

- with your training experience, I'm sure you...

- with your training experience, I'm sure you could could you explain this statement to we non-AB folk? It seems a little odd.
Forum: Tech Log
29th Jul 2011, 10:49
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

Oh dear.:{

Oh dear.:{
Forum: Tech Log
26th Jul 2011, 14:23
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

- That was a silly comment. Are you seriously...

- That was a silly comment. Are you seriously suggesting that AB would have put those words in the manual? I would not even expect Ziegler to do that - spout it, yes, but print it? No.

What is...
Forum: Tech Log
26th Jul 2011, 13:09
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

I suspect that like me, none of the contributors...

I suspect that like me, none of the contributors here of late actually know what Air France taught for recovery from the approach to a stall in the A330 in those days, nor how much 'reliance' was...
Forum: Tech Log
26th Jul 2011, 10:44
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

- maybe have a glance at...

- maybe have a glance at http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/415373-new-airbus-stall-recovery-procedure.html ? It may be of interest to you.
Forum: Tech Log
22nd Jul 2011, 07:32
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

w7 - one more go. See #2103. They were deviating...

w7 - one more go. See #2103. They were deviating around an area of increased instability in the ITCZ. It may or may not have been a 'thunderstorm' but there is no indication that it was. As I quoted,...
Forum: Tech Log
21st Jul 2011, 13:53
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

BEA said abnormal law did not trigger. See...

BEA said abnormal law did not trigger.

See 'Flight Global (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/06/01/357394/stalled-af447-did-not-switch-to-abnormal-attitude-law.html)'
Forum: Tech Log
21st Jul 2011, 11:07
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

wallybird - I would ask you to carefully read...

wallybird - I would ask you to carefully read both the current and old threads on this topic? Your fixation on 'thunderstorms' is out of place based on what we are told by BEA. There is also no firm...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Jul 2011, 20:36
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

As current contributors will probably know, I am...

As current contributors will probably know, I am one of the 'old' aviators, but I still find it incredible that these two pilots performed the initial climb. I am less interested in investigation of...
Forum: Tech Log
8th Jul 2011, 14:25
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

While waiting for the 'insight' from...

While waiting for the 'insight' from Fizz......................

1) Nothing really wrong with a stall warning 'going off' in a landing - if you land a C150 PROPERLY the stall warning should 'bleep'...
Forum: Tech Log
8th Jul 2011, 07:43
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

- we would all be interested to know exactly...

- we would all be interested to know exactly what happened - since you obviously do, can you tell us? It would save an awful lot of bandwidth (or should that be a lot of awful bandwidth...?)
Forum: Tech Log
5th Jul 2011, 11:30
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

Roseland - you have me confused now. What is this...

Roseland - you have me confused now. What is this about "why file a plan where the intended destination is listed as an alternate?". Destination was CDG. The alternate was ORY. Can you explain your...
Forum: Tech Log
4th Jul 2011, 21:15
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

Roseland - I go with all of your post #1909...

Roseland - I go with all of your post #1909 except the para beginningwhich is totally unproven.
Forum: Tech Log
27th Jun 2011, 22:02
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,657,995
Posted By BOAC

Turbine - I accept 'weather' was a factor,...

Turbine - I accept 'weather' was a factor, otherwise the pitots would not have iced up! Moderate turbulence should NOT cause an accident.

What your table of routes shows, interestingly, is that...
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