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19th Mar 2013, 08:06
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Posted By BOAC

Welcome to the mystery.

Welcome to the mystery.
14th Mar 2013, 10:44
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Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

- I have just revisited the Greek accident report...

- I have just revisited the Greek accident report and there is a puzzle. The report states that the APU bleed was off, but the picture at page 50 clearly shows the APU bleed switch at 'ON' while the...
13th Mar 2013, 12:51
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

All three bleeds - check the reports in the link....

All three bleeds - check the reports in the link. We do not even know if the APU was serviceable for starters. We know very little.
13th Mar 2013, 11:05
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Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

- yes, but we have at least one poster 'claiming'...

- yes, but we have at least one poster 'claiming' all bleed switches were in the off position in the wreckage (don't know the 'provenance' for this statement) and another that Helios commonly used...
13th Mar 2013, 08:17
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

- I recall the report saying they were discussing...

- I recall the report saying they were discussing the horn at around 10,000' with company?

MCC - bugspeed post #27 refers to it. It is a mandatory part of EU pilot training - 'Multi-crew...
12th Mar 2013, 21:40
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

Apologies for dragging this back to the piloting...

Apologies for dragging this back to the piloting side from the very important legal issues - the other thread appears to have 'faded':

I see reference to the 3 bleed switches being found 'OFF' -...
7th Feb 2013, 20:51
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

Here's hoping he can rebuild his life after this...

Here's hoping he can rebuild his life after this dreadful period.
20th Dec 2012, 11:11
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

- I'm afraid I disagree. Remember 'going up' has...

- I'm afraid I disagree. Remember 'going up' has far less effect on the ears than coming down'. I suggest 'may'? I had to depart INN once unpressurised until around 6000' due to a tech issue and I do...
6th Oct 2012, 17:28
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Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

Will there even be a 'Greek legal system' in Aug...

Will there even be a 'Greek legal system' in Aug 2013?
2nd May 2012, 17:04
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

It is a while since I flew the Classic, and as...

It is a while since I flew the Classic, and as you say 'toggle' (as I recall it too) it must be less likely that both would have been moved by impact, I would think, so it must be significant,...
2nd May 2012, 16:04
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

- obviously irrelevant to a Country out for...

- obviously irrelevant to a Country out for Alan's scalp.........:ugh:

Do you have a link to this ('Boeing man') observation?
2nd May 2012, 10:42
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

- I either was not aware or had missed this. Why,...

- I either was not aware or had missed this. Why, if they had masks on, did they not retain consciousness long enough to sort it out?
21st Apr 2012, 13:55
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Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

ECAM - read the thread?

ECAM - read the thread?
29th May 2010, 12:45
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Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

P51 - may I assume you have read the archive...

P51 - may I assume you have read the archive thread on this accident and the report - in particular page 121?

Hoping you have, in which case, with particular reference to p121, in your 737 flying...
1st May 2010, 07:37
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

abc - agree with much of that, but we are...

abc - agree with much of that, but we are treading over old ground here on this accident. There is no attempt solely 'to blame the manufacturer'. You will see that the accident was primarily caused...
30th Apr 2010, 11:13
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

- quite, but as that well-known ATC after-dinner...

- quite, but as that well-known ATC after-dinner speaker once said
"Pilots are normally first on the scene of a crash. Aeroplanes do not normally back into mountains"
29th Apr 2010, 16:03
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

Of course, PLovett, but therein lies the problem....

Of course, PLovett, but therein lies the problem. It was not just the Helios crew that were 'confused'. You need to read the whole previous thread to understand the psychology involved in why quite a...
29th Apr 2010, 14:49
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

Centaurus - in defence of 'competent' pilots, the...

Centaurus - in defence of 'competent' pilots, the design flaw by Boeing which had the same warning noise for both TOCW and cabin altitude caused a lot of confusion and should have been sorted out...
28th Apr 2010, 08:33
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

- others have referred to the post by Centaurus...

- others have referred to the post by Centaurus which highlights the 'attitude' to 'checks' (aka airmanship) delivered by manufacturers which can rapidly become the 'norm'.

I always made sure the...
27th Apr 2010, 21:40
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

Denti and Idle, what I said was - not the only...

Denti and Idle, what I said was - not the only place! 10, yes, 20 yes, 30, yes, 40 yes and then in the cruise. Descent is also a good idea but less vital.
27th Apr 2010, 17:01
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

Better late than never! The after take-offs is...

Better late than never! The after take-offs is the best place to start.
26th Apr 2010, 19:53
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

Do. It is worth digging out the original thread...

Do. It is worth digging out the original thread and you will see what happened.
23rd Nov 2008, 15:31
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

I'll take your word for it, but the message that...

I'll take your word for it, but the message that came 'loud and clear' from Boeing was that the intermittent horn in the air could 'only be pressurisation', so that is interesting. However, our drill...
20th Nov 2008, 19:19
Replies: 427
Views: 202,397
Posted By BOAC

- taking us a bit off thread, but can you amplify...

- taking us a bit off thread, but can you amplify that please? The 'message' sent down from above was along the lines of Ifixplanes' post "Again: in air it must be "cabin altitude warning". There is...
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