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17th Oct 2018, 01:25
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Posted By Old Akro

Firstly, FGD. I disagree strongly with you, but...

Firstly, FGD. I disagree strongly with you, but do respect that you apply intellect & logic.

But, a) simulators are commonly used to reconstruct accident scenarios. Its clear that the ATSB didn't...
14th Oct 2018, 23:12
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Posted By Old Akro

The big unanswered question is, assuming the trim...

The big unanswered question is, assuming the trim was left full left for the take-off, could the pilot counteract it?

The report has not tested this.

They put a guy in a SIM, but he did not fly...
14th Oct 2018, 22:47
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Posted By Old Akro

The report notes that the pilot is seen doing a...

The report notes that the pilot is seen doing a walk around on CCTV.
8th Oct 2018, 07:41
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Posted By Old Akro

The ATSB report of ZCR's recent flights /...

The ATSB report of ZCR's recent flights / maintenance is sketchy.

FlightAware shows ZCR returning to Essendon on Feb 4 at approx 2pm with a flight time of 1:24
But the ATSB does not show it...
27th Sep 2018, 04:13
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Posted By Old Akro

Report WPR09LA451. B200 Kingair. The main...

Report WPR09LA451. B200 Kingair. The main wreckage was 4420 ft from the point of lift off at about 10 deg from the runway centre line. The rudder trim was full left AND elevator trim 9 degree nose up...
27th Sep 2018, 00:59
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Posted By Old Akro

This analysis is a smoke & mirrors crock of s@#t....

This analysis is a smoke & mirrors crock of s@#t. If the ATSB had halfway done a proper job they would have:
a) flown the accident profile in the SIM (which they didn't because they recorded...
25th Sep 2018, 06:31
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Posted By Old Akro

Yep, I forgot about the Textron takeover and only...

Yep, I forgot about the Textron takeover and only recognised the name in the context of other components.. But still there is no indication that they asked Beechcraft about either the ability to...
25th Sep 2018, 02:37
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Posted By Old Akro

FGD, I could say the same thing about you. ...

FGD, I could say the same thing about you.

The major flaw in the SIM session is that the aircraft was flown to a TAS of up to 140kt.and possibly more. But the incident aircraft never flew above...
25th Sep 2018, 01:23
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Posted By Old Akro

The ATSB didn't do simulation, modelling or fight...

The ATSB didn't do simulation, modelling or fight tests because they say it was outside the scope of the report, not that it was too expensive. How they can say it was outside the scope of the report...
25th Sep 2018, 01:11
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Posted By Old Akro

the tailwind on takeoff is known precisely. The...

the tailwind on takeoff is known precisely. The BOM logged it at 1 sec intervals. It was 4 kts.
24th Sep 2018, 22:50
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Posted By Old Akro

zzuf. Good point. And it’s unbelievable that the...

zzuf. Good point. And it’s unbelievable that the ATSB didn’t investigate this in the SIM. It also appears that the ATSB did not fly the accident profile in the SIM which I think defies explanation. ...
24th Sep 2018, 11:45
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Posted By Old Akro

I understand that the B200 is certified under FAR...

I understand that the B200 is certified under FAR 23. Paraphrasing FAR 23.677 it says essentially that the aircraft should have enough control authority to land in any trim position. The wording...
24th Sep 2018, 11:25
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Posted By Old Akro

Firstly, the ATSB rely heavily on the pixel...

Firstly, the ATSB rely heavily on the pixel method. It is the prime basis on which they argue that the aircraft was in a slideslip that caused reduced performance. Note, that the ATSB failed to...
24th Sep 2018, 11:10
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Posted By Old Akro

Trevor, A CASA FOI declared him to be competent...

Trevor, A CASA FOI declared him to be competent about a year prior after extensive review.
24th Sep 2018, 10:52
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Posted By Old Akro

Go and read the ATSB report on the Mojave Air...

Go and read the ATSB report on the Mojave Air ambulance accident at Bankstown. That pilot was heavily criticized for not making a mayday call. I guess you just cant win.

If I had a low level...
24th Sep 2018, 10:48
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Posted By Old Akro

Trevor, There is no basis to suggest that he...

Trevor, There is no basis to suggest that he stopped flying. Not even the ATSB has suggested this and they are pretty good at leaps of logic. The pilot was one of the most experienced King Air pilots...
24th Sep 2018, 10:44
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Posted By Old Akro

Look closely at the pixel method. Its responsible...

Look closely at the pixel method. Its responsible for 5 out of 6 calculations. Think about the potential errors and the area of uncertainty that that creates. Think about the parallax that they are...
24th Sep 2018, 10:38
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Posted By Old Akro

Wombat, seriously? The report says that the pilot...

Wombat, seriously? The report says that the pilot made 1 Mayday transmission in witch he repeated Mayday 7 times. A perfectly human response to an extreme situation I would have thought.
24th Sep 2018, 10:01
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Posted By Old Akro

FGD 1. The whole Essendon incident occurred...

FGD

1. The whole Essendon incident occurred in 12 seconds. a) I don't think that fits with the meaning that the SIM pilot was meaning when he said "your leg WILL give out...." and b) as noted...
24th Sep 2018, 09:55
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Posted By Old Akro

I read those comments as relating to the 140KT...

I read those comments as relating to the 140KT condition. They are written after the concept of loss of control at 140 Kt is introduced. Earlier in the reference when rotation and initial lift off...
24th Sep 2018, 09:03
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Posted By Old Akro

Actually the report says: " The yaw on...

Actually the report says:

" The yaw on take-off was manageable......After takeoff the aircraft was manageable but challenging up to about 140 knots..."

The aircraft didn't get above about 112...
24th Sep 2018, 08:58
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Posted By Old Akro

Heresay is not the business of the ATSB. Its not...

Heresay is not the business of the ATSB. Its not a knitting circle. If they can't demonstrate it, they shouldn't say it. Period.

And, I'm with Groggy. The issue in flashing lights is "why didn't...
24th Sep 2018, 08:30
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Posted By Old Akro

Maybe. I've flown an aeroplane that was...

Maybe. I've flown an aeroplane that was significantly out of rig, and my recollection is that it required opposite rudder to keep it straight.

But the real question is a) how can the ATSB publish...
24th Sep 2018, 07:52
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Posted By Old Akro

All true, but its inexcusable to accuse a dead...

All true, but its inexcusable to accuse a dead man of this without justification. And there is none. For all we know, he did all the checklists perfectly & diligently. And the guy had 2400 hours on...
24th Sep 2018, 07:04
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Posted By Old Akro

Not correct. The ATSB was unable to recover any...

Not correct. The ATSB was unable to recover any checklists due to fire. They are unable to say one way or the other.

The PIC was cleared as competent to fly by a CASA FOI just months before (how...
24th Sep 2018, 04:34
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Posted By Old Akro

It was 4% overweight by the ATSB's estimation -...

It was 4% overweight by the ATSB's estimation - for which they have presented no details.

the PIC was reasonably light. Lets call the passengers 100 kg ea with 30 kg of bags each. This should...
24th Sep 2018, 04:26
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Posted By Old Akro

The ATSB report says that the B200 is...

The ATSB report says that the B200 is controllable with full left trim up to 140 KTAS (p46)
The ground speed data shows that the aircraft took off at 11 kt GS and peaked at approx 116 kt before...
24th Sep 2018, 03:17
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Posted By Old Akro

I think the B200 is an FAR 25 type certificate?...

I think the B200 is an FAR 25 type certificate? Does anyone know if the type certificate requires demonstration that the aircraft is controllable with full rudder trim?

When the Partenavia that...
24th Sep 2018, 03:09
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Posted By Old Akro

ATSB say that based on ITS OWN estimation that...

ATSB say that based on ITS OWN estimation that the aircraft was 240kg over weight out of a total of 5670kg - or 4%. It also says that the CofG limits were within the fore / aft limits. this equates...
24th Sep 2018, 01:52
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Posted By Old Akro

If it was just rudder trim, why did the report...

If it was just rudder trim, why did the report take nearly 2 years?

From my initial scan of the report:

As i understand it, the PIC was the last person to fly the aircraft. So, who moved the...
11th Sep 2018, 01:07
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Posted By Old Akro

Junior. Rotating and producing power are 2...

Junior. Rotating and producing power are 2 different things.
15th May 2018, 03:52
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Posted By Old Akro

Not the first flight after maintenance. But maybe...

Not the first flight after maintenance. But maybe second or third.
13th May 2018, 00:52
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Posted By Old Akro

Mr Peabody, I now hear that the report has not...

Mr Peabody, I now hear that the report has not yet gone for final review, let alone to the DIP's. This would lead me to guess that the report is a minimum of 4 months away. And so its becoming...
3rd May 2018, 23:23
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Posted By Old Akro

This accident has been over speculated. We need...

This accident has been over speculated. We need the ATSB to do its job and publish the report.

In Feb the ATSB put out a media release essentially saying that the report was done but release was...
30th Apr 2018, 20:25
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Posted By Old Akro

April has come and gone and still no report. The...

April has come and gone and still no report. The ATSB statement on February 9 looks pretty hollow now.
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