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29th Dec 2013, 22:18
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Posted By Old Akro

Firstly, ILS was first used by airlines in 1938...

Firstly, ILS was first used by airlines in 1938 after being invented in 1929. Before ILS airlines were flying DC-2's. Do you really want to go back to that?

Secondly, the cost of not having ILS is...
29th Dec 2013, 22:08
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Posted By Old Akro

Read p5. The BOM had good information on the...

Read p5. The BOM had good information on the actual conditions. The problem is that it wasn't passed on to the flight crews.

There was also a MET observer at Mildura providing information - see...
29th Dec 2013, 22:01
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Posted By Old Akro

A mate who is an International 747 captain told...

A mate who is an International 747 captain told me his airline uses woomera as a waypoint / alternate. It allows them to reset the fuel reserves enroute to Melb.

Woomera became dramatically more...
27th Dec 2013, 00:07
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Posted By Old Akro

Once again, I need to go back and piece together...

Once again, I need to go back and piece together the timeline. But I suspect that at the time the TAF was issued saying PROB 30 FOG that there was actually FOG at the airport - ie PROB 100 FOG.

I...
27th Dec 2013, 00:01
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Posted By Old Akro

One of the really bad practices of the ATSB is...

One of the really bad practices of the ATSB is that they NEVER make the timeline clear. In some reports they even mix dist to run & time, almost like its designed to confuse. You need to actually...
26th Dec 2013, 23:57
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Posted By Old Akro

If I recall my reading correctly, the weather...

If I recall my reading correctly, the weather station was serviceable, but the comms link was U/S.

Its an absolute disgrace. We spend $6.4m repainting the terminal at YMIA, but can't get a...
26th Dec 2013, 23:53
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Posted By Old Akro

I understand that YPWR is regularly used as an...

I understand that YPWR is regularly used as an alternate by the airlines (but primarily to recalculate fuel reserves). However, it has no proper passenger handling facilities (ie steps) and a very...
21st Nov 2013, 20:47
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Posted By Old Akro

Yes, Minister

Yes, Minister
24th Jul 2013, 23:55
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Posted By Old Akro

I keep raising it, but I believe the forecasts...

I keep raising it, but I believe the forecasts went from PROB30 fog to below minima fog in one step. And I suspect that change was AFTER the fog had formed.

Frankly, if when can't get better...
20th Jul 2013, 23:49
Replies: 838
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Posted By Old Akro

I think an earlier post said that the pavement...

I think an earlier post said that the pavement strength of BHI is inadequate for a B737. MIA is PCN 32, BHI is PCN 15. I don't fully understand the B737 requirements, but prima facie it looks to me...
19th Jul 2013, 06:12
Replies: 838
Views: 648,436
Posted By Old Akro

Yep, no excuse other than brain fade. I...

Yep, no excuse other than brain fade.

I think this discussion is maybe forgetting that the crews were probably getting additional information that is not part of the ATSB report. I don't fly for...
18th Jul 2013, 22:35
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Posted By Old Akro

The ATSB preliminary report is out. ...

The ATSB preliminary report is out.

http://www.atsb.gov.au/media/4172363/ao-2013-100_prelim.pdf

It looks like it does a good job of tabling the facts & timeline. I've put it aide to read fully...
13th Jul 2013, 00:30
Replies: 838
Views: 648,436
Posted By Old Akro

This is the real issue. Good weather & above...

This is the real issue. Good weather & above average pilot skill is allowing us to get away with 3rd world infrastructure. One day it will catch up with us.
8th Jul 2013, 00:24
Replies: 838
Views: 648,436
Posted By Old Akro

From memory, $6.4m. No change to the roof. No...

From memory, $6.4m. No change to the roof. No area extension. Just paving, paint, carpet, partitions. I haven't met a single person in Mildura that thought it was necessary (including some people...
7th Jul 2013, 22:52
Replies: 838
Views: 648,436
Posted By Old Akro

I don't understand our aversion to installing...

I don't understand our aversion to installing contemporary aviation infrastructure.

Hempy's argument that real pilots don't need ILS is nonsense. I bet the old & bold said the same thing about...
3rd Jul 2013, 11:51
Replies: 838
Views: 648,436
Posted By Old Akro

Look at the post on p15. The fog was unforecast...

Look at the post on p15. The fog was unforecast less than 2 hours prior. The forecasts went from PROB30 FOG to real FOG in one go.

In my experience PROB30 might as well be 0.1%. Its the lowest...
2nd Jul 2013, 07:52
Replies: 838
Views: 648,436
Posted By Old Akro

I'm sure its only because there is no-one else

I'm sure its only because there is no-one else
2nd Jul 2013, 06:49
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Posted By Old Akro

You are completely correct. But I think we...

You are completely correct.

But I think we both agree that the focus should be on the failings in aviation infrastructure rather than pilot's decision making or fuel reserves. Cat III in Adelaide,...
2nd Jul 2013, 04:56
Replies: 838
Views: 648,436
Posted By Old Akro

I don't believe they have met this deadline on a...

I don't believe they have met this deadline on a single significant report. They get a plethora of minor reports done relatively quickly to make the stats look reasonable.
2nd Jul 2013, 04:54
Replies: 838
Views: 648,436
Posted By Old Akro

I'm using as reference an ICAO document dated Dec...

I'm using as reference an ICAO document dated Dec 2012. It lists a total of 16 civilian & 9 Military ILS installations in Australia.

The new Wagga ILS is further away from Adelaide than Melbourne...
1st Jul 2013, 03:57
Replies: 838
Views: 648,436
Posted By Old Akro

WAAS would be a solution. But my real point is...

WAAS would be a solution. But my real point is that the focus should not be on mayday calls or fuel reserves. It out to be on having first world airport infrastructure. If we could install an ILS for...
1st Jul 2013, 00:01
Replies: 838
Views: 648,436
Posted By Old Akro

I've been overseas and missed most of this but...

I've been overseas and missed most of this but I'd make these points:

1. The ATSB seems to be taking 2 years plus for any report of real seriousness or contention. There are currently 87...
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