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Forum: Tech Log
1st Apr 2019, 11:28
Replies: 75
Views: 43,692
Posted By oggers

The whole point of this thread is the legality of...

The whole point of this thread is the legality of the manoeuvre itself. You either have the weather minimums or you don't, that is not in question.

There are IAPs where you have to circle back if...
Forum: Tech Log
30th Mar 2019, 08:56
Replies: 75
Views: 43,692
Posted By oggers

Small cog;[left] Already been covered in the...

Small cog;[left]

Already been covered in the thread It is also in the linked article. It is when a the final approach is very steep or not aligned with the runway and it is in precisely those...
Forum: Tech Log
29th Mar 2019, 19:49
Replies: 75
Views: 43,692
Posted By oggers

Smallcog All the runway is not...

Smallcog



All the runway is not directly behind you though. The threshold will be just behind the wing. You would have to have a particulalry restricted view from the cockpit to not have line...
Forum: Tech Log
29th Mar 2019, 13:10
Replies: 75
Views: 43,692
Posted By oggers

The diagram I provided (along with the example I...

The diagram I provided (along with the example I edited) was from the "examples of various circling approach situations" as provided in the TC AIM. The whole point is they are NOT prescribed tracks...
Forum: Tech Log
29th Mar 2019, 10:55
Replies: 75
Views: 43,692
Posted By oggers

We are talking the general case here which the OP...

We are talking the general case here which the OP has been at pains to reiterate, not some specific restriction on the individual plate such as 'Circling Not Authorised South and East' or procedures...
Forum: Tech Log
28th Mar 2019, 19:47
Replies: 75
Views: 43,692
Posted By oggers

....or IR-OPS....?

....or IR-OPS....?
Forum: Tech Log
28th Mar 2019, 17:28
Replies: 75
Views: 43,692
Posted By oggers

Yes and another point that renders the original...

Yes and another point that renders the original scenario moot for operators under EU-OPS. But still not a general prohibition under ICAO.



According to PANSOPS

Also, back in the day when my...
Forum: Tech Log
28th Mar 2019, 15:01
Replies: 75
Views: 43,692
Posted By oggers

So tell me why this guy is wrong:

So tell me why this guy is wrong:
Forum: Tech Log
28th Mar 2019, 10:42
Replies: 75
Views: 43,692
Posted By oggers

...yes the vis in the scenario was below circling...

...yes the vis in the scenario was below circling minima as you rightly point out. However, the whole question is moot based on that vis because you are not permitted to continue beyond the FAF...
Forum: Tech Log
28th Mar 2019, 08:27
Replies: 75
Views: 43,692
Posted By oggers

The OP said this: If you read the from...

The OP said this:



If you read the from the beginning it is clear that he is talking about the general case even though he picked OLBA and came up with a scenario with a vis where you could not...
Forum: Tech Log
27th Mar 2019, 14:08
Replies: 75
Views: 43,692
Posted By oggers

There is no general prohibition against circling...

There is no general prohibition against circling back.



For me it is not black and white. I don't see why with 20 - 25° bank you cannot maintain line of sight to the runway environment. To my...
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