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24th Dec 2011, 15:43
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Posted By barit1

Granted that humans are known to do a better job...

Granted that humans are known to do a better job when "in the loop" than when monitoring another human, or monitoring the automation...

But when capturing the glideslope, whether from below or...
14th May 2010, 13:19
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Posted By barit1

Unfortunately:

Three universal root causes:

The airplane was invented by humans.

The airplane was designed and built by humans.

The airplane was operated and maintained and managed by humans.

Yes I...
9th May 2010, 21:20
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Posted By barit1

flyburg: My statement was certainly...

flyburg:

My statement was certainly incomplete, and I'm sorry you find it dumb.

I think most human factors engineers would agree that the human animal doesn't do a great job of monitoring a...
9th May 2010, 00:58
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Posted By barit1

767Capt Perhaps the issue is distraction. ...

767Capt

Perhaps the issue is distraction.

There were two or more simultaneous missions underway; the FIRST should have been flying the sector safely. The line check was secondary, and the #1...
8th May 2010, 00:57
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Posted By barit1

Safety Concerns: I am very disturbed...

Safety Concerns:



I am very disturbed by this statement. Wasn't #2 RA operating? Two ASI's were operating. Weren't manual thrust levers still available? The failure of one RA is a mere...
7th May 2010, 00:19
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Posted By barit1

Aviate, navigate, communicate. Three pilots...

Aviate, navigate, communicate.

Three pilots in the cockpit somehow could not manage the first of these; and what will you wager that THY mgmt is focusing more on RA maintenance than on airmanship.
28th Jan 2010, 11:42
Replies: 2,906
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Posted By barit1

If there were some way the BA038 crew could have...

If there were some way the BA038 crew could have been alerted to the magnitude of the problem early on, SFLY's theories might have mitigated the outcome. Unfortunately the onset of the problem was...
21st Sep 2009, 21:09
Replies: 2,906
Views: 1,450,488
Posted By barit1

Isn't that what we call situational awareness ? ...

Isn't that what we call situational awareness ?

I'll bet sim instructors around the world are duplicating the THY AMS situation now - if for no other reason than to gather statistics on crews'...
30th Apr 2009, 02:02
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Posted By barit1

Right. Like the Q400 at KBUF. :rolleyes:

Right.

Like the Q400 at KBUF.
:rolleyes:
9th Apr 2009, 13:13
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Posted By barit1

I've known very few pilots who make INTENTIONAL...

I've known very few pilots who make INTENTIONAL mistakes.



Yes, a single driver can be distracted for three seconds, perhaps fatally.

But we are talking about a team of three drivers - all...
8th Apr 2009, 15:55
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Posted By barit1

Swapping RAs left vs right would have led to the...

Swapping RAs left vs right would have led to the news that it was not black box trouble, but rather in the left cable or antenna. I thought all techs employed this old, old method of sorting things...
25th Mar 2009, 13:28
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Posted By barit1

That was my thought early on, but what little...

That was my thought early on, but what little hard evidence we have so far seems to say T/L's were at idle, and engines running (stabilized?) at idle, for 100 sec. before recovery was attempted....
22nd Mar 2009, 15:07
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Posted By barit1

fireflybob made some cogent remarks in post #1871...

fireflybob made some cogent remarks in post #1871 (http://www.pprune.org/4773548-post1871.html) re situational awareness. There are those seemingly trying to discredit the NASA study, but it still...
10th Mar 2009, 21:33
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Posted By barit1

"The ultimate result of shielding men from the...

"The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools."
Herbert Spencer 1820-1903
7th Mar 2009, 12:52
Replies: 2,906
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Posted By barit1

Somehow my mind keeps comparing the AMS accident...

Somehow my mind keeps comparing the AMS accident with this one: (http://www.airdisaster.com/reports/ntsb/AAR67-AG.pdf) Failure of basic airmanship.
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