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Forum: Rotorheads
19th Mar 2024, 14:24
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/...

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1378x1177/hill_2f9832a55c8b1e918e46891d7131979e4072fbdd.png
An interesting perspective...
Forum: Rotorheads
15th Mar 2024, 11:45
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Personally, I don't think it is a scam: Jason...

Personally, I don't think it is a scam: Jason Hill went into this believing that it's acheivable.

I reckon I'm a passably good businessman but haven't the first idea about engineering: if I...
Forum: Rotorheads
14th Mar 2024, 07:26
Replies: 1,303
Views: 587,997
Posted By 206 jock

I recall that you were excited to be one of the...

I recall that you were excited to be one of the early adopters of the 505, sounds like the expectation didn't match the experience.

I wonder if the 206/505 will be like the Honda NSX...the new...
Forum: Rotorheads
13th Mar 2024, 08:20
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

I hear that Jason Hill has applied for every...

I hear that Jason Hill has applied for every position and has managed to get every one 😄.

Seriously, a lot of very critical, specialist positions; with many featuring the word 'design'. For an...
Forum: Rotorheads
11th Mar 2024, 09:28
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Or does it sound like the sceptics who called out...

Or does it sound like the sceptics who called out the promises of Onecoin, pointing out that it never even had a blockchain? Investors decided to overlook this in the hype - see how that ended.

No...
Forum: Rotorheads
1st Mar 2024, 14:07
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Other than an engineering fix that JH could do in...

Other than an engineering fix that JH could do in his lunch break, not much. Other than every engine manufacturer would ask for a price that's about the same as Hill propose to charge for their...
Forum: Rotorheads
1st Mar 2024, 11:54
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

H99, I'm struggling to understand whether you are...

H99, I'm struggling to understand whether you are a sceptic or a Hilleiver?

But constabtly cutting ans pasting from the Hill website is wasting everyone's time. After all, here's a quote for you:...
Forum: Rotorheads
1st Mar 2024, 10:08
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Do people really think that this aircraft will be...

Do people really think that this aircraft will be flying in 2024? That's my hat safe if not - my shoe was already saved by the lack of flight in 2023.

More like 2026...if at all.
Forum: Rotorheads
27th Feb 2024, 10:03
Replies: 10
Views: 825
Posted By 206 jock

Personally, I find the Mini more than adequate,...

Personally, I find the Mini more than adequate, but others prefer the full fat version.I still use a Mini 4 which I only use in the aircraft, battery life is around 4 hours and is generally fine....
Forum: Rotorheads
26th Feb 2024, 19:07
Replies: 1,303
Views: 587,997
Posted By 206 jock

We're getting to the tipping point where a late...

We're getting to the tipping point where a late low hour 206 is not much different in price to an early 505. OK there's still a bit of difference but they are in the same ballpark nowadays.
...
Forum: Rotorheads
11th Feb 2024, 11:14
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

I have given up trying to use logic with the Hill...

I have given up trying to use logic with the Hill depositors. Jason says everything will be fine so it will be, apparently. But your point is valid. Robinson turn out around 300 aircraft a year, from...
Forum: Rotorheads
11th Jan 2024, 13:49
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Well, let's hope that JH has sold his R66 by...

Well, let's hope that JH has sold his R66 by then. And of course that the fantasy promised gets delivered.

In the meantime, I'll hold onto my 206, if that's OK. At least I can actually fly it, not...
Forum: Rotorheads
6th Jan 2024, 07:01
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

To be fair, there are a few others who feel...

To be fair, there are a few others who feel similar to Crab and who definitely have the money.

But what's the point in repeating the same concerns and issues for the Hillievers to dismiss because...
Forum: Rotorheads
19th Dec 2023, 09:31
Replies: 15
Views: 3,904
Posted By 206 jock

Bell 407 spinning on ground!

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1724449184691424
This popped up on my Facebook feed: not sure if it's done the rounds previously but it's new to me.

In Panama, apparently. If no-one or nothing was...
Forum: Rotorheads
13th Oct 2023, 08:11
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Anyone who knows anything about UK Planning...

Anyone who knows anything about UK Planning process would have told Dr Hill that his factory idea was a non starter. Instead he has wasted time, money and effort on a pipedream.

But isn't this...
Forum: Rotorheads
9th Oct 2023, 07:05
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Obviously there may be more detail in the 'owner'...

Obviously there may be more detail in the 'owner' videos but are all of these parts being pushed out being NDT, durability tested and production ready?

Or - at the other end of the scale - are...
Forum: Rotorheads
27th Sep 2023, 06:28
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

JH knows his timescales were made up (he Pm'd me...

JH knows his timescales were made up (he Pm'd me to say exactly that, when he was pretending to be someone else).

And otherwise?

- The made up price point The £495k initial price was chosen to...
Forum: Rotorheads
26th Sep 2023, 10:37
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

I keep reading this '500 per year' rubbish....

I keep reading this '500 per year' rubbish. Anyone who believes this will ever happen is naive in the extreme. Given that customers must complete a 2 week build, that's 20 completion bays, running...
Forum: Rotorheads
21st Sep 2023, 06:21
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Finally! I get to join the Grumpy old man club. ...

Finally! I get to join the Grumpy old man club.

Hey PP, chill a bit. It's your money, you spend it how you want, knock yourself out. When you are flying your HX50 in 2026, pop by my place and...
Forum: Rotorheads
8th Sep 2023, 07:50
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

It's the first thing that put me off the HX50:...

It's the first thing that put me off the HX50: all this Aviation 2.0/Disruptor/vertical integration blah blah...JH has read the Elon Musk textbook and decided that he can apply it to aviation.
...
Forum: Rotorheads
29th Aug 2023, 15:27
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

I am sure that you are right, but of course Hill...

I am sure that you are right, but of course Hill has an eye on certification (HC50) .....and the recent odd reference to a bigger machine in the pipeline.

This latter thing is what's pricking my...
Forum: Rotorheads
29th Aug 2023, 13:07
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

I have no doubt they would receive 900 deposits...

I have no doubt they would receive 900 deposits if they reduced their prices by 75% to Hill levels! Heck, I might even buy two!
Forum: Rotorheads
29th Aug 2023, 12:03
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

I wonder what the legacy manufacturers think of...

I wonder what the legacy manufacturers think of Hill? Is it #1 item on the agenda of every Board meeting they hold? Is one (or more) of them lining up a purchase of the upstart to take them out of...
Forum: Rotorheads
29th Aug 2023, 08:12
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

^^^^^. Another deposit holder! Fair enough....

^^^^^. Another deposit holder!

Fair enough. The sceptics are all wrong and will regret not buying the Hill and all other helicopters will instantly depreciate by 90% in the day that the first...
Forum: Rotorheads
20th Aug 2023, 18:44
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Funnily enough, an article in today's Telegraph...

Funnily enough, an article in today's Telegraph about TVR and their taxpayer fund assisted factory. Maybe Jason (Hi CRAN!) could move production to the Welsh valleys
...
Forum: Rotorheads
18th Aug 2023, 14:21
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Especially as it will be priced at £695,000, no...

Especially as it will be priced at £695,000, no doubt.

Is there the touch of Walter Mitty about Jason Hill? Honestly, his sole focus should be delivering his current project (including showing the...
Forum: Rotorheads
18th Aug 2023, 09:36
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Let's hope that not many depositors pass away...

Let's hope that not many depositors pass away before their machine is ready

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/500x749/7w54q9_b4a8b86fb9cf96dfc989927bf27911a9bebbba85.jpg
Forum: Rotorheads
18th Aug 2023, 08:17
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Perhaps Dr Hill is aware that getting planning...

Perhaps Dr Hill is aware that getting planning will be very hard and until that's built, he cannot realistically be held to account on production of real, flying aircraft. It probably doesn't help...
Forum: Rotorheads
17th Aug 2023, 19:58
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Phew! My hat is safe, just the shoe at risk but...

Phew! My hat is safe, just the shoe at risk but to be honest, I am not too worried about that, as it's consumption is based on a flight in 2024.
Forum: Rotorheads
17th Aug 2023, 06:34
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

For a helicopter that is due to be flying in 4...

For a helicopter that is due to be flying in 4 months time, that's a lovely render of something that isn't built yet.
Forum: Rotorheads
27th Jul 2023, 06:38
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Be fair. Jason has been a bit busy designing the...

Be fair. Jason has been a bit busy designing the door handles, the combustion liner, the UX displays, the fenestron, doing the accounts if all 10 companies with up to three employees in each. Only so...
Forum: Rotorheads
26th Jul 2023, 17:36
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Stoke Air Ambulance

Jeesh. Just what the sector needs. More snouts in the AA trough. Don't suppose DRLAA will be happy.

Mind you, the ego that led that outfit has now departed. about time too
Forum: Rotorheads
18th Jul 2023, 20:20
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Err, not what I meant. He has nothing of value to...

Err, not what I meant. He has nothing of value to a prospective buyer until his machine flies. Until then it's an ego trip and an engineer's dream.
Forum: Rotorheads
18th Jul 2023, 13:40
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

​​​​ Good question, probably depends on what...

​​​​
Good question, probably depends on what 10.3 says. But safe to say if the money has been spent, there's little chance that it will ever come back. Any depositor would come at the back of the...
Forum: Rotorheads
14th Jul 2023, 12:59
Replies: 1,593
Views: 427,566
Posted By 206 jock

Hmm. I'm struggling to see which group you belong...

Hmm. I'm struggling to see which group you belong to ;-) I had to check that you didn't register for Prune the day after CRAN was outed. I'm sure we're all really pleased that you are such a cool,...
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