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Forum: Freight Dogs
19th Aug 2016, 19:13
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Posted By Julio747

I dont think so...

Only 60% from buoyancy??? Try again....
15th Aug 2016, 11:24
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Posted By Julio747

False alert

According to news reports, it was a false alarm.

But no harm in being ultra careful.
11th Aug 2016, 19:47
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Views: 52,969
Posted By Julio747

To be honest...

... I am glad of a separate thread...

We all know crashes are multifactorial. Fatigue is one factor often enough. A real and significant factor. But it is boring to hear it 100 times on every...
11th Aug 2016, 18:52
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Views: 504,865
Posted By Julio747

Old news

That report was issued long ago, 3rd august as I recall, and posted long ago...

And point 5 is missing, other factors related to the incident are still being investigated.

Please try to read...
11th Aug 2016, 18:06
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Views: 2,132,262
Posted By Julio747

Who knows?

Early rumours talked about a bounce. Later rumours talk about a ga at 30-40ft during flare. Neither may be true. It's a rumour network....
11th Aug 2016, 17:20
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Posted By Julio747

No t if you believe recent posts

Rumours suggest GA called during flare, at 30-40 feet. Too high to disable TOGA. But that is just one of many "inside stories" here. Another says they bounced. That might do it.

So which inside...
11th Aug 2016, 07:14
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Posted By Julio747

"WS proc was done"

Given that a GA was already initiated (let's assume TOGA thrust, flaps 20 and gear up), I wonder what they mean by the statement "windshear proc was done" after they noticed the WS event?
10th Aug 2016, 17:47
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Posted By Julio747

Doesn't really answer whether they were down and...

Doesn't really answer whether they were down and locked.

If the gear was down and locked, but they landed very hard, I wouldn't expect it to look like that. And clearly it didn't roll to a stop....
10th Aug 2016, 17:34
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Views: 504,865
Posted By Julio747

I can't say for certain...

But for sure the cc could see it before wheels stop. Are you suggesting they may not have informed the flight deck?

The RFF was on the move before wheels stop. Did they omit to tell anyone do you...
9th Aug 2016, 21:24
Replies: 31
Views: 9,547
Posted By Julio747

Well...

If they will change gates at the last minute...
9th Aug 2016, 20:45
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Views: 504,865
Posted By Julio747

This thread goes on and on

But, the right answer is staring you in the face if you have seen the vids, inside and outside.

Dont tell me the RFF said stay put, we will control it, when they were driving away from the burning...
9th Aug 2016, 20:26
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Posted By Julio747

Errmmm...

I don't think anyone said they bounced 150 ft. If that source is valid, one has to assume the climbed there albeit briefly. Without bouncing.

The same source claims the wheels were down. That...
9th Aug 2016, 18:32
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Posted By Julio747

Who to believe?

Ironically, one (inside) post claims positive rate of climb (for a while) and wheels left down. The latter being a boon, apparently

This is one case where I think sitting and waiting for the...
9th Aug 2016, 18:25
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Posted By Julio747

Wow! So many rumours!

This thread is going all over the place. We have contradictory evidence from those supposedly in the know.

Wheels down, wheels up. Bounced or didnt bounce? How can we tell? (except perhaps by...
8th Aug 2016, 04:37
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Views: 504,865
Posted By Julio747

Oldlurker...

I was responding to an earlier post, regarding video from inside the a/c, where you can see foam landing on the windows. Of course, foam was going everywhere at that point. Well everywhere on the RHS...
8th Aug 2016, 04:16
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Posted By Julio747

I think the implication is that it came down so...

I think the implication is that it came down so hard that the gear collapsed. And that it took the shock, preventing less damage to the a/c itself.

What I am confused by is how a light 777 on full...
7th Aug 2016, 15:06
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Views: 504,865
Posted By Julio747

At 39 seconds after wheels stop, foam starts...

At 39 seconds after wheels stop, foam starts spraying, but not on the plane alas, and certainly not on the windows.
6th Aug 2016, 21:10
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Posted By Julio747

Or stalled in to the ground

Either way, the crux of this fortunate (barring the fire fighter who died, may he RIP) was the wheels up decision. Not good. Alas some poor sod pushed the lever...
6th Aug 2016, 20:28
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Views: 504,865
Posted By Julio747

Excellent post....

The only thing I would add to that is that if the fc did not order the RFF before landing (understandably, at that point they did not think they had a fire problem), then who did? It has been said...
6th Aug 2016, 17:21
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Views: 504,865
Posted By Julio747

And how long after wheels stop was that??? ...

And how long after wheels stop was that???

My guess is around 3-4 minutes. You may notice the fire is well underway at the beginning of the video!

Yeah! Really sublime! The pax got to watch the...
6th Aug 2016, 17:04
Replies: 866
Views: 504,865
Posted By Julio747

Luckily...

Now, remind me, who is using 20/20 hindsight?

The "evacs" are saying it should have been an evac, despite the hindsight that everyone survived.

Whilst you are saying the call was good because...
6th Aug 2016, 12:51
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Views: 2,132,262
Posted By Julio747

Plus...

Plus the ground proximity warning if he tried to land with the wheels up.

To me it looks like bounced landing, GA full thrust (did they disengage AT?), and curiously, wheels up way too early. The...
5th Aug 2016, 17:32
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Posted By Julio747

Pilot error

Whatever way you look at this, pilot error has to be a factor. (And we all know pilots are human right?)

Maybe toga was pressed but was disabled. Maybe they held the thrust leavers against the...
4th Aug 2016, 16:46
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Views: 2,132,262
Posted By Julio747

GA commanded by tower

I can understand the FC calling GA after a bounce, just not the tower! (Previous posts said the tower called it).

I cannot understand why the FC would raise the wheels before the go around was...
3rd Aug 2016, 20:40
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Views: 2,132,262
Posted By Julio747

Really?

It could be what happened. But I doubt it.....
3rd Aug 2016, 18:59
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Views: 2,132,262
Posted By Julio747

Create their own oxygen????

Lithium ion batteries have their issues. But "creating their own oxygen" is only something God (and maybe plants) can do!

You might want to revisit some basic chemistry....

They do, however,...
3rd Aug 2016, 18:50
Replies: 1,758
Views: 2,132,262
Posted By Julio747

Not sure I believe this happened...

Nothing wrong with your logic. But I think the probability that this happened is very low indeed. This is not a tiger moth landing....

But bouncing... Positive rate of climb... Engines not spooled...
3rd Aug 2016, 18:39
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Views: 2,132,262
Posted By Julio747

Rubbish!

Sorry Dave. Different circumstances, I will grant you. But...

EQ... Immediate evac, history shows a good call.

SQ... No evac. History tells us they all survived. By the skin of their teeth,...
3rd Aug 2016, 18:29
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Views: 2,132,262
Posted By Julio747

Agree with every word!

Well said, sir. All points totally valid.

Pax are humans not just slf. If they are off, they want passport and money. And perhaps other stuff. A reality of life. Forget trying to control it, you...
3rd Aug 2016, 17:20
Replies: 1,758
Views: 2,132,262
Posted By Julio747

And the relevance of that????

UAE is fairly small as it happens. Take a look at many major airports around the world and you won't see much difference....
3rd Aug 2016, 17:11
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Views: 504,865
Posted By Julio747

Agreed.

But having pulled the #2 engine to idle 2 hours earlier, because it obviously had problems, would you use it for powered reverse on landing? I am not saying they did. We don't know. I am saying that...
3rd Aug 2016, 15:25
Replies: 1,758
Views: 2,132,262
Posted By Julio747

Not so simples...

It's good in theory. But in some parts of the world, 80% of the pax will burn trying to open the bins....
3rd Aug 2016, 15:04
Replies: 1,758
Views: 2,132,262
Posted By Julio747

Sop

That is what I was thinking. WS escape does not call for wheels up!
3rd Aug 2016, 14:46
Replies: 866
Views: 504,865
Posted By Julio747

Very good if everything is fine...

That is a normal landing. But #2 was set to idle already, 2 hours before landing. On the advice of engineers I understand. That is a very different scenario...
3rd Aug 2016, 14:28
Replies: 866
Views: 504,865
Posted By Julio747

Exactly why I asked the question...

I think it was after Manchester incident, when the thrust buckets sprayed fire over the fuselage and made a bad situation a lot worse.

In this case, they had no fire before landing (and perhaps,...
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