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Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
29th Jun 2014, 06:10
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Simplex, please at least try to be consistent. ...

Simplex, please at least try to be consistent.

While nobody else can see what you see, you have repeatedly contended that the famous 1903 photo “clearly” shows a slope in front of the plane such...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
29th Jun 2014, 05:43
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

The Dec. 17, 1903 flight was witnessed, among...

The Dec. 17, 1903 flight was witnessed, among others, by Adam Etheridge, John Daniels, and Will Dough.

Simplex, you reference "The Wright Stories" website regarding how, in 1928, Etheridge,...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
29th Jun 2014, 03:30
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Now that you mention it, the long rectangle is...

Now that you mention it, the long rectangle is the current runway so that appears to confirm the prevailing winds.
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
29th Jun 2014, 01:58
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Dear Mr. Simplex - Here's a USGS...

Dear Mr. Simplex -

Here's a USGS topographical map of the area with 5 foot contour intervals (click on it for a larger version). I made it just for you.

As you can see, all of the Dec. 17,...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
28th Jun 2014, 17:18
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Laughable.

Laughable.
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
28th Jun 2014, 16:37
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

I suppose that it's open to interpretation...

I suppose that it's open to interpretation (cough...), but I think he politely called you an idiot.
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
27th Jun 2014, 07:31
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

As usual, you miss the point while trying to...

As usual, you miss the point while trying to support your own. Here are some other quotes the same author, Leonard S. Hobbs, in The Wright Brothers' Engines and Their Design:



The Wrights...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
26th Jun 2014, 05:19
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Let's recap once again. Thanks to Simplex, we...

Let's recap once again. Thanks to Simplex, we have two viable, competing theories to "fully explain" why Chanute told others that he saw the Wright brothers plane fly 500 m on 15 October 1904:
...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
26th Jun 2014, 02:52
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

It certainly reads that way, but based on the...

It certainly reads that way, but based on the flight logs assembled by historian Arthur G. Renstrom (link above in #622), it seems that Chanute was an eye witness to the one flight on the 15th of...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
26th Jun 2014, 01:29
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

99Cruiser99 quotes: Thanks. Seems...

99Cruiser99 quotes:



Thanks. Seems pretty clear to me.

However, relative to an earlier letter from Octave Chanute regarding his observation of the same flight, our friend Simplex...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
26th Jun 2014, 01:06
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Hopefully you're joking. While from a different...

Hopefully you're joking. While from a different era, that's not especially subtle :). Here, maybe you'll enjoy this Wright Brothers version of "US Olympic gymnast McKayla Maroney is not...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
25th Jun 2014, 23:04
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Have you seen these allegedly irrelevant...

Have you seen these allegedly irrelevant photographs?

Have you seen the Wright's diaries and the entries regarding their flights and related photographs?
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
25th Jun 2014, 21:04
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

In the 1903 photo, you see a hill nobody else...

In the 1903 photo, you see a hill nobody else sees and pronounce it a "glide."

In 2003, the 100th anniversary of the Wright brothers' first powered flight NASA reissued Arthur G. Renstrom's...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
25th Jun 2014, 02:26
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

I found the Wright proposal of January 27, 1908...

I found the Wright proposal of January 27, 1908 in an article entitled "Wright Brothers' 1908 Proposal for a Heavier-Than-Air Flying Machine," on page 32 of an excerpt from the Spring 1999 edition of...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
24th Jun 2014, 21:46
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

It's complete lack of existence, of course. ...

It's complete lack of existence, of course.

Don't you see the scheme? They completely designed the 1908 Flyer III in the four weeks between the U.S. government's 23 December 1907 request for...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
24th Jun 2014, 21:30
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Prove it. .

Prove it.



.
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
24th Jun 2014, 19:46
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Ridiculous. You contend that the Wrights...

Ridiculous.

You contend that the Wrights were merely “gliding” in 1903 and 1904, and still weren’t flying from 1905 to 1908. Through speculation, and aggressive innuendo, you accuse the Wrights...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
22nd Jun 2014, 17:25
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

I don't understand. Why do you think this...

I don't understand. Why do you think this information about the 10% deposit is important to the general topic of this thread?
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
22nd Jun 2014, 02:32
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Objection. Non-responsive. Random. Move to...

Objection. Non-responsive. Random. Move to strike. Request sanctions. :)
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
22nd Jun 2014, 00:37
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

I laughed out loud when I ran across this Dayton,...

I laughed out loud when I ran across this Dayton, Ohio web page that described the skeptical reaction of the members of the aviation committee of the Aero Club of France when Lahm read a French...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
22nd Jun 2014, 00:29
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

First, Henry Weaver's 5 December 1905 letter to...

First, Henry Weaver's 5 December 1905 letter to his brother-in-law Frank Lahm was preceded by a cable that said, "Claims fully verified, particulars by mail." Source - See "December 3" entry...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
21st Jun 2014, 20:00
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Hi Susan. Are there any photos of the G....

Hi Susan. Are there any photos of the G. Whitehead airplane in flight?
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
21st Jun 2014, 04:52
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

So, let me recap. Your "simple and logical"...

So, let me recap. Your "simple and logical" explanation is that after flying in front of thousands of amazed onlookers in Le Mans, France, on Aug. 8, 1908, the Wright brothers rubbed their hands...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
21st Jun 2014, 00:07
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

This is very well written.

This is very well written.
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
20th Jun 2014, 18:12
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Seriously?! (note the similarly emphatic...

Seriously?! (note the similarly emphatic punctuation). Let's just assume what you say is true.

Given your base concession that the Wrights "had flown 24 1/5 miles in 39 minutes, on Oct. 5, 1905,"...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
20th Jun 2014, 16:25
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Thanks for the comments Brian. That's a great...

Thanks for the comments Brian. That's a great picture to put the actual location in context.

Some day I would like to put down on the adjacent runway! (the placement of which, by the way,...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
19th Jun 2014, 19:51
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Aside from the Wikipedia issue... What does...

Aside from the Wikipedia issue...

What does this mean? What conclusions should we make, if any?

What differences, if any, arise from the different "maximum speeds" of 30, 35, 35, and 42 MPH?
...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
19th Jun 2014, 17:31
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Not to mention the obvious layer of yellow...

Not to mention the obvious layer of yellow thermals that unfairly provided additional lift. :)
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
19th Jun 2014, 15:23
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

I know you're joking (and appreciate the humor!...

I know you're joking (and appreciate the humor! :)), but nonetheless wanted to point out that nearly one-thousand glides were from the hill, but the flights on the 17th were from a rail that was...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
19th Jun 2014, 15:04
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Simplex is comparing apples and oranges. ...

Simplex is comparing apples and oranges.

According to his post (http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/540496-wright-brothers-just-glided-1903-they-flew-1908-a-26.html#post8527713), the...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
18th Jun 2014, 22:58
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Good grief yet again. Proves nothing... ...

Good grief yet again.

Proves nothing...

Maybe the replica-makers made a better propeller than the Wrights penciled out. It was, after all, a pretty early time in terms of the theories on...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
18th Jun 2014, 22:53
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Good grief. First, mathematical arguments...

Good grief.

First, mathematical arguments based on numbers gleaned from newspaper reporters are plain silly.

Second, and most importantly - Given the world's skepticism of the time, if your...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
18th Jun 2014, 18:58
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

It is my understanding that the Wrights were...

It is my understanding that the Wrights were launching the Flyer from the hill on the 14th, but as shown in the photo above, they moved the rail to the flats on the 17th.

Per one website - In the...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
18th Jun 2014, 17:03
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

It is interesting, but hardly surprising since...

It is interesting, but hardly surprising since this interview is from 1927, many years afterward and when Mr. Daniels was advanced in age, and given the fact that for MANY years before the 17...
Forum: Aviation History and Nostalgia
18th Jun 2014, 00:39
Replies: 680
Views: 124,101
Posted By eetrojan

Just ran across this... Apparently the French did...

Just ran across this... Apparently the French did have something to do with the first flight:

http://www.teamandras.com/temp/Wright_French.jpg

Okay. Sorry. I keed. I keed. :)
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