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Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
28th Sep 2011, 06:03
Replies: 66
Views: 20,821
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Its certainly not something I've ignored but...

Its certainly not something I've ignored but there has to be a balance between short term and long term. In the long term JQ isn't the best option in the world I know. The problem with long term is...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
28th Sep 2011, 01:11
Replies: 66
Views: 20,821
Posted By PhoenixNZ

I agree Prop, its all about the lifestyle. ...

I agree Prop, its all about the lifestyle.

The fact is that the JQ cadets program is still nearly double the income you would get
doing GA. You also gain experience on a type that is used all...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
14th Sep 2011, 07:15
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

My NZ ATPL is part of my course which is student...

My NZ ATPL is part of my course which is student loan funded so I will be doing them regardless.

With NZ ATPL done it shouldn't I would hope take much to get my Aus ATPL theory. At the end of the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
14th Sep 2011, 05:17
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

It never was about flying a Jet. It was...

It never was about flying a Jet.

It was about flying and getting money for it. More money than GA would even be offering for my level of experience.

The QLink one looks good, only trouble I...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
14th Sep 2011, 03:48
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

@Eternity Your about 10-11 years off my age...

@Eternity

Your about 10-11 years off my age there mate. Married with two children is kind of hard when your 15 lol.

Going bush as you put it is all well and good when your single and have no...
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
14th Sep 2011, 01:47
Replies: 3
Views: 864
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Allow me to rephrase - If you have completed and...

Allow me to rephrase - If you have completed and passed your NZ ATPL, would it require much study to do the Australia ATPL?
Forum: The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
14th Sep 2011, 01:34
Replies: 3
Views: 864
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Aus ATPL in NZ

Does anyone know if its possible to sit the Australian ATPL exams in NZ and where I might find any info about that?

Also are there significant differences in the two outside of the law differences?
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
14th Sep 2011, 00:33
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Anyone have any thoughts on the Qlink cadets...

Anyone have any thoughts on the Qlink cadets program?
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
13th Sep 2011, 08:51
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

GG - Any good website to keep an eye on for these...

GG - Any good website to keep an eye on for these jobs?

I've found Australian Federation of Air Pilots - AFAP - Pilot Jobs (http://www.afap.org.au/Jobs/Latest-Jobs/AFAP-Pilot-Jobs-.asp) however...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
13th Sep 2011, 07:53
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

The issue still comes back to the availability of...

The issue still comes back to the availability of jobs. As you pointed out GG cadet schemes mean less of those GA jobs being available. If the jobs aren't there, how do you get them to start out...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
13th Sep 2011, 07:19
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

@Keg Cadets have repeatedly earlier in this...

@Keg

Cadets have repeatedly earlier in this thread been referred to as scabs, sellouts and told they only get what they deserve if something goes wrong. Thats being abused. Thats what I object to....
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Sep 2011, 23:38
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

I always understood the pilots problem toolish....

I always understood the pilots problem toolish. The pilots on the other hand never seem to understand the cadets problem.

$100k debt with very few job prospects, the only opportunities are in...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Sep 2011, 21:42
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

If I can find a good GA job over the ditch then...

If I can find a good GA job over the ditch then thats cool. Again, the main reason I'm going for the cadets program is simply a lack of options.

My point all along has never been that the cadet...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Sep 2011, 11:39
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Because we have no other options currently. Are...

Because we have no other options currently. Are you suggesting we just sit around for a few years on an unemployment benefit just so that we can hope that it will open some jobs in the regionals?

...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Sep 2011, 10:56
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

This is EXACTLY my point. Cadets are simply doing...

This is EXACTLY my point. Cadets are simply doing whatever they can to get their first jobs in the industry that they want to work in.

Simple reality is that GA jobs in NZ are hard to come by....
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
12th Sep 2011, 08:31
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Question: Given that the cadets program in...

Question:

Given that the cadets program in the UK has been going on for quite some time now, has there been any documented evidence that these cadets have been involved in any more incidents than...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 09:19
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Also I'll mention that this whole thread started...

Also I'll mention that this whole thread started because of the news that the JQ cadets would be getting similar conditions now to standard F/Os. They can now only be used and abused for two years. ...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 09:00
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

The real world: Who has the problem:...

The real world:

Who has the problem: Existing pilots
Who is responsible for doing something about it: Existing pilots

The existing pilots world:

Who has the problem: Existing pilots
Who is...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 08:52
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

If no-one protests against the unacceptable then...

If no-one protests against the unacceptable then it will never change. You dont think Martin Luthor King gave up just because the first time he tried everyone ignored him?
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 08:46
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

. I totally agree that if no one applied...

.

I totally agree that if no one applied then they would have to change it. But whats the likelyhood that your going to convince everyone who wants to be a pilot not to apply?

So instead, why...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 08:37
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Thats the difference between the two of us. I...

Thats the difference between the two of us. I wouldn't get pissed off at the guy doing the driving, I'd be pissed off at the guy who offered him the car

Can you really blame a 17 year old for...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 08:32
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

And NONE of that has currently had any negative...

And NONE of that has currently had any negative impact on the existing FOs has it? They haven't had to take paycuts or faced massive redundancies.

So what do the current FOs in NZ have to worry...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 08:25
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

The difference is that I'm perfectly happy taking...

The difference is that I'm perfectly happy taking $60k given that I'm fresh out of training.



Again it seems your punishing us for simply taking the best deal around. For being human in other...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 08:07
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

And what are the JQ and QF pilots doing about it...

And what are the JQ and QF pilots doing about it other than sitting here on PPrune bitching about it?

The pilots need to harden up and take the action required and show JQ and QF that they aren't...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 07:42
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Everyones going on about how cadet schemes will...

Everyones going on about how cadet schemes will result in lower pay for everyone across the industry but has anyone actually got anything other than speculation to back that up?

The UK has been...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 07:28
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

No, you had the 20k a year job because it was the...

No, you had the 20k a year job because it was the only one that was available at the time. You didn't give up anything because there were no other options.

Are you seriously saying you would take...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 06:58
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Or maybe I'm just an optimist. Do you...

Or maybe I'm just an optimist.

Do you really think they will still convince people to pay 80k for a job where the highest salary is 60k?

Hands up in the room who would actually do that?
...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 06:42
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Why dont you enlighten me seeing as your so...

Why dont you enlighten me seeing as your so obviously an expert in economics and explain how spending 80k to earn 100k a year is better than spending 30k to earn 200k a year?

Management have the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 06:41
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Its quite simple: I'm in aviation because the...

Its quite simple:
I'm in aviation because the amount of money it pays is reasonable and I get to do something I love.

And anyone who can't pay the bills on 48k (or the 60k that is now the entry...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 06:20
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Of course I'm after a career. I've never said...

Of course I'm after a career. I've never said otherwise. If I dont enjoy flying then why would I be spending 80k to get into this?

I could take a 30k management degree and probably end up far...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 05:55
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Chockchucker: So if someone came to you and...

Chockchucker:

So if someone came to you and said "Hi, we would like you to give up $20k a year so that everyone elses pay stays the same" are you going to say "Sure, thats fine".



Not at...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 05:22
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Not one of the cadets who sign up to be a cadet...

Not one of the cadets who sign up to be a cadet do it with the intention or desire to undercut any pilots. They do it because the only other alternatives are ****.

You all accuse cadets of wanting...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
11th Sep 2011, 00:43
Replies: 153
Views: 29,022
Posted By PhoenixNZ

So quick to condem

This has certainly been an interesting read from the point of view of an upcoming cadet.

You all seem to forget one simple truth - cadets are people as well. They are simply trying to make the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
16th Aug 2011, 04:55
Replies: 261
Views: 60,782
Posted By PhoenixNZ

So you want them to pay you a retention bonus...

So you want them to pay you a retention bonus without ensuring that they actually retain you?
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
31st Jul 2011, 01:14
Replies: 261
Views: 60,782
Posted By PhoenixNZ

Its a bit late for me to not get into the...

Its a bit late for me to not get into the industry as I'm already doing my training for it.

As was pointed out its a choice between being a slave for a GA company or being a slave for Jetstar. So...
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