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Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 12:44
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

Dragman, :) There has been 2 today, quite a...

Dragman, :)

There has been 2 today, quite a good day, I still heard them, but strangely they made me smile and now I am missing them!

But like I have said, it is not 2 or 5 that bother me, it...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 12:34
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

Of course, but there were people who were in the...

Of course, but there were people who were in the trail riding industry for a living. The only people who won were the NIMBY's.
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 12:27
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

Ageed, but in both those cases you could get...

Ageed, but in both those cases you could get somebody independent (the council enviro health) to mediate. Also both cases have people who could reduce the noise (fit silencer or use electric...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 12:14
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

I agree, but common sense is not a quality...

I agree, but common sense is not a quality everybody posseses. Although I suspect heli pilots would tend to have more than most. The law should be that it is fine to do it but if it becomes...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 12:06
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

For those of you who are interested, I thought I...

For those of you who are interested, I thought I would share my similar experience of NIMBY's that destroyed a sport I enjoyed, and you may take away some valuable lessons from it.

I used to trail...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 11:43
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

Dont you think that is crazy and unfair? Surely...

Dont you think that is crazy and unfair? Surely in a fair society this should not be allowed? I am not saying ban all helicopters, I am saying dont allow people to do things like this which could...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 11:37
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

:) A very whitty example of the...

:)

A very whitty example of the discrepencies in the laws
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 11:33
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

Thanks Floater, for the info, the offer and the...

Thanks Floater, for the info, the offer and the intelligent reply. It is good to hear somebody else admit that some heli's are "bloody noisy" even at legal height.

Senior - I understand why you...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 11:19
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

They get excluded from noise nuisance laws (or at...

They get excluded from noise nuisance laws (or at least given exemptions). For example I can complain to the council about a noisy model helicopter and action would be taken, but I cannot do the...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 10:46
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

Thanks Miles for your helpful, understanding and...

Thanks Miles for your helpful, understanding and intelligent reply.

If all heli pilots have your attitude then there really is no hope for the industry, but I suspect the majority are a little...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 10:27
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

I never expected you to do anything, I had no...

I never expected you to do anything, I had no idea what the outcome of this post would be when I started it. I wanted to understand exactly why they flew directly overhead and what the pilots view...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 10:01
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

And me! The noise is the issue and as technology...

And me! The noise is the issue and as technology cannot make it low enough yet, some other mediation needs to be entered into.



Sounds like you are in a similar situation to me, and I feel for...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 09:16
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

If you read my previous posts you would see that...

If you read my previous posts you would see that I had done everything reasonable (and beyond) to check this out.



This is not an official route, it is open air space that happens to form a...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 08:52
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

Epsom/Ashtead. I never asked or expected you to...

Epsom/Ashtead. I never asked or expected you to tell your customers anything.

I have been in a similar position to you guys and lost, so I know what it is like to be hounded away from the hobby...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 08:45
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

It is not the same at all for one simple reason,...

It is not the same at all for one simple reason, the knowledge before moving in.

If I moved near a race track I would not dream of moaning about the noise, same re airport or road. It is quite...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 08:41
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

That is not what I want, what I want is fairness...

That is not what I want, what I want is fairness (if I lived 2 miles away I would probably have far fewer overhead) and the government to stop denying there is a problem and set up some decent form...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 08:36
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

Blimey Shy, you really are anti anti :) ...

Blimey Shy, you really are anti anti :)



No existing objection to heli noise, it had never entered my conciousness. Objection to noise in general (trains, roads) so we chose this house as it...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 08:27
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

Hatred is a bit strong, frustration at the system...

Hatred is a bit strong, frustration at the system is probably closer to the mark. If the system forced the heli's to alternate their routes on different days of the week or something then that would...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 08:17
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

"Letting" is too much of a simplification. It is...

"Letting" is too much of a simplification. It is impossible to block it out. The only thing that works is loud music which is not how I want to live my life. Transient in the technical sense, and...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 08:03
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

No, I dont really belive that they will, but once...

No, I dont really belive that they will, but once you know where I am, if some anti anti decides to annoy me there is NOTHING I can do about it, I am just being cautious because of the possible knock...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 07:57
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

An attitude that has has been obtained by trying...

An attitude that has has been obtained by trying to get some answers/action via official routes, I am here because I realise that pilots are normal humans like me and hopefully have a more human...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 04:39
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

Sadly selling the house is not an option, and...

Sadly selling the house is not an option, and belive me I would take it f it was. The house has some terrible legal issues which mean that I am here until the day I die or go bankrupt, at this rate...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 04:32
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

I wish I had the confidence in the industry to...

I wish I had the confidence in the industry to tell you, but I cannot help thinking that there are some on this board who would delight in making my life more miserable because I dare to speak out...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Jul 2009, 04:23
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

I am sure this comes into it, some would choose...

I am sure this comes into it, some would choose to live by a motorway, some would not. I obviously would not! The problem in this case is that the noise was "hidden" from me until after we had...
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Jul 2009, 21:44
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

Please dont try and trivialise my problem, if it...

Please dont try and trivialise my problem, if it really was that trivial do you think I would have gone to all this effort to try and get something done? (CAA, MP's, enviro health, anti heli...
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Jul 2009, 21:40
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

If the reg is on the side, and the heli is...

If the reg is on the side, and the heli is directly overhead, you cannot see the reg irrespective of height. This is one of the annoyances.

I do live South West of Battersea, outside the London...
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Jul 2009, 21:33
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

That is so true, if I could know what they were...

That is so true, if I could know what they were doing it would help, I may not agree with all the flights but like I said that is a diffecrent issue.
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Jul 2009, 21:07
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

You must be joking, there is very little...

You must be joking, there is very little legislation for aircraft noise, in fact it is excluded from the noise nuisance act as if it were included your lives would be a lot more difficult. Sure...
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Jul 2009, 21:03
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

I do, many hours, photographing helicopters and...

I do, many hours, photographing helicopters and logging incidents (cue the p!ss taking, but if you lived here and knew the full situation you may actually understand)

Lorries, none. trains none,...
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Jul 2009, 20:54
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

Not personal prejudice, but personal effect,...

Not personal prejudice, but personal effect, these flights are directly affecting me, I would be the same if there were some little twats shouting and screaming all day outside my house.

Before we...
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Jul 2009, 20:48
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

I never placed them in the same catagory, all I...

I never placed them in the same catagory, all I said was that I was into bikes and toy helicopters.

Have you ever tried to contact the operators responsible for a helicopter flying directly over...
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Jul 2009, 20:35
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

I dont have an answer for co-ordination as I dont...

I dont have an answer for co-ordination as I dont understand traffic control, but do you think it is fair that I am under a flight path when I am nowhere near an airport or under a heli path in the...
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Jul 2009, 20:16
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

I posted the reply below a few hours ago, but it...

I posted the reply below a few hours ago, but it was put in quaratine for a moderator, because it was too long I think, anyway here it is.

Hopefully you will now go a little easier on me once you...
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Jul 2009, 18:03
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

Blimey Whirls, quick reply! I appreciate your...

Blimey Whirls, quick reply! I appreciate your time.

Right, I bought my house recently, intentionally away from airports and railway lines as I like a quiet life. Little road noise and no other...
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Jul 2009, 17:30
Replies: 177
Views: 19,309
Posted By low-and-loud

I have just stumbled across this thread after...

I have just stumbled across this thread after searching the Internet for activity relating to anti helicopter noise in Surrey.

As you can probably tell by my username I am one of those NIMBY's you...
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