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Forum: ATC Issues
12th Aug 2009, 16:35
Replies: 59
Views: 8,899
Posted By White Hart

sorry - no apologies and no retraction. They...

sorry - no apologies and no retraction. They shouldn't have been taken on in the first place. It was a problem waiting to happen.
Forum: ATC Issues
12th Aug 2009, 12:43
Replies: 59
Views: 8,899
Posted By White Hart

DC10RM - thanks for helping to clarify what was...

DC10RM - thanks for helping to clarify what was really the situation at the time of VCA introduction. It seems to have been forgotten by many, ATCOs and ATSAs included, and the newest recruits...
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Aug 2009, 22:59
Replies: 59
Views: 8,899
Posted By White Hart

Ceannairceach 'If you believed so you were...

Ceannairceach

'If you believed so you were grossly misled.'

yes I was, and I stand by my statement.

PM for you BTW.
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Aug 2009, 01:20
Replies: 59
Views: 8,899
Posted By White Hart

'dont we now have the same problem that would...

'dont we now have the same problem that would occur if EFPS goes wrong? The same increase in workload? The same issues in getting FlightData to the controller?'

The issue is not about how the data...
Forum: ATC Issues
9th Aug 2009, 21:00
Replies: 59
Views: 8,899
Posted By White Hart

so, in a systems outage situation, ATCOs...

so, in a systems outage situation, ATCOs attending to what were once ATSA tasks in addition to their own tasks is no less safe?

Having worked in an EFPS-equipped tower, I agree that the new...
Forum: ATC Issues
7th Aug 2009, 00:31
Replies: 14
Views: 4,034
Posted By White Hart

As said, it has been happening on the mainland...

As said, it has been happening on the mainland and will continue to do so across NATS wherever there are support grades in post. To those affected at JJ, life actually does go on outside of NATS, so...
Forum: ATC Issues
6th Aug 2009, 11:40
Replies: 59
Views: 8,899
Posted By White Hart

me me, Luddites we are not. Part of the NATS...

me me,

Luddites we are not. Part of the NATS operational staff trying to be logical about the workload impact/safety aspect of new technology on service provision, yes. Trying to save some of our...
Forum: ATC Issues
5th Aug 2009, 12:43
Replies: 59
Views: 8,899
Posted By White Hart

'technology' will not help you when 'technology'...

'technology' will not help you when 'technology' falls flat on its 'fk me, they told us that would never happen' face.

and one day, it will.
Forum: ATC Issues
18th Jul 2009, 11:37
Replies: 24
Views: 4,969
Posted By White Hart

'With the advent of electronic displays many ATSA...

'With the advent of electronic displays many ATSA tasks are now obsolete'

The ATSAs may be obsolete, but many of the tasks are not - they've simply been given to somebody else to deal with - the...
10th Jul 2009, 16:06
Replies: 10
Views: 854
Posted By White Hart

many thanks to you all for the help and advice...

many thanks to you all for the help and advice :ok:

i shall be working my way through all your suggestions over the weekend, and hopefully one of them will come up trumps! :)

(you can always...
9th Jul 2009, 18:56
Replies: 10
Views: 854
Posted By White Hart

its using the 'convert your doc to .pdf' option...

its using the 'convert your doc to .pdf' option on acrobat.com (hyperlinked from Adobe Reader 9). Allows you to upload and convert a max of 5 files to .pdf free of charge.

7 hrs now, and still...
9th Jul 2009, 15:47
Replies: 10
Views: 854
Posted By White Hart

Acrobat

Does anyone have working knowledge of Adobe Acrobat? In particular, when using Acrobat, how long should it take to upload a Word.doc (100mb max inc jpg images), convert it to pdf, and be able to...
7th Jul 2009, 10:44
Replies: 44
Views: 5,581
Posted By White Hart

FlyUK a pukka reply - shame it wasn't post...

FlyUK

a pukka reply - shame it wasn't post no.2 on this thread..:hmm:
Forum: ATC Issues
7th Jul 2009, 10:40
Replies: 24
Views: 4,969
Posted By White Hart

'He was truly superhuman but was treated...

'He was truly superhuman but was treated appallingly'

by whom, I wonder? .... now let me guess?? :hmm:

'He later joined NATS and must have thought he'd died and gone to Heaven'

not now, he...
Forum: ATC Issues
6th Jul 2009, 18:05
Replies: 24
Views: 4,969
Posted By White Hart

NATS or non-NATS? don't know about non-NATS....

NATS or non-NATS?

don't know about non-NATS. but, with the exception of Heathrow Lighting Operators, NATS Tower ATSAs are generally very busy looking at the latest job vacancies at anywhere other...
6th Jul 2009, 18:03
Replies: 44
Views: 5,581
Posted By White Hart

'makes me wonder if such short fuses are the norm...

'makes me wonder if such short fuses are the norm or just an exception.'

its not about short fuses, but more about self-officious pomposity. not confined to the 'spectators' area, either - check...
Forum: ATC Issues
30th Jun 2009, 20:21
Replies: 89
Views: 11,827
Posted By White Hart

how many staff are actually not members of either...

how many staff are actually not members of either Union? Not that many, I would have thought. I cant believe that had they all been members, that it would have made much of a difference to the...
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Jun 2009, 14:15
Replies: 2,329
Views: 433,228
Posted By White Hart

Dont worry Frank, there will probably be another...

Dont worry Frank, there will probably be another move to get everybody into uniform when the Company is restructured, with NSL disappearing up its own ar*e, and NERL rebranded as NATS EnRoute...
Forum: ATC Issues
27th Jun 2009, 18:54
Replies: 89
Views: 11,827
Posted By White Hart

'Jeez! This is unbelievable!' maybe so, but...

'Jeez! This is unbelievable!'

maybe so, but the question now is what do you do about it? Whatever it is, you have all got to work together on getting a resolution, and for the very first time in...
Forum: ATC Issues
25th Jun 2009, 16:00
Replies: 2,329
Views: 433,228
Posted By White Hart

oh dear, I hope you are being sarcastic?? ...

oh dear, I hope you are being sarcastic??

yes, the powder is very dry, its very dry,... so very very ,,.erm ....dddry ..yy...er, ddr,.....yy,...y, . zzzzz, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :rolleyes:
Forum: ATC Issues
23rd Jun 2009, 23:09
Replies: 120
Views: 26,019
Posted By White Hart

steady on Frank, you know you dont really want to...

steady on Frank, you know you dont really want to upset Dumb and Dumber - again! (ha ha!) :p
Forum: ATC Issues
22nd Jun 2009, 18:32
Replies: 120
Views: 26,019
Posted By White Hart

I'm with Frank on this one!

I'm with Frank on this one!
22nd Jun 2009, 12:16
Replies: 4
Views: 846
Posted By White Hart

we have a semi-automated system (SAMOS) at some...

we have a semi-automated system (SAMOS) at some airfields here in the UK. The automatic readings have to be manually corrected by an Observer before transmission to the Met Office, usually because...
22nd Jun 2009, 07:42
Replies: 44
Views: 5,581
Posted By White Hart

'It's outrageous that you should take Rainboe to...

'It's outrageous that you should take Rainboe to task - he is a respected professional pilot.'

what utter bollox! you'll be telling us all next that we shouldn't question your posts either 'cos...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Jun 2009, 16:48
Replies: 2,329
Views: 433,228
Posted By White Hart

understood. a PM for you, BTW.

understood. a PM for you, BTW.
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Jun 2009, 21:00
Replies: 2,329
Views: 433,228
Posted By White Hart

just to clarify - my statement should have read...

just to clarify - my statement should have read 'The majority question everything and anything money-related on a purely personal basis in this Company.'

The 'short term thinking' you refer to is...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Jun 2009, 15:02
Replies: 2,329
Views: 433,228
Posted By White Hart

"Unfortunately not enough people question what...

"Unfortunately not enough people question what they are told.."

don't agree. The majority question everything and anything money-related in this Company, but they haven't got the balls to stand up...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Jun 2009, 14:48
Replies: 2,329
Views: 433,228
Posted By White Hart

"now if we all joined ASLEF/RMT" whether...

"now if we all joined ASLEF/RMT"

whether your comment was tongue-in-cheek or not, its not going to make any difference what Union (s) represent the NATS staff. The majority are not 'Union' people....
Forum: ATC Issues
30th May 2009, 16:25
Replies: 2,329
Views: 433,228
Posted By White Hart

only if you made it whilst you were bent over the...

only if you made it whilst you were bent over the desk in the Manager's office, happily and willingly receiving the latest instalment of why NATS' policies are good for you.
Forum: ATC Issues
30th May 2009, 11:09
Replies: 2,329
Views: 433,228
Posted By White Hart

"It's our company, it's time we stood up and...

"It's our company, it's time we stood up and fought for it."

already too late for some of us, and probably for a good few more.

same old problem, though. The issue here is not simply a case of...
28th May 2009, 22:19
Replies: 4
Views: 6,982
Posted By White Hart

SA - station actual (current met conditions) SP...

SA - station actual (current met conditions)
SP - special observation report (ie - a marked change in observation reporting criteria has taken place)
Forum: ATC Issues
26th May 2009, 02:02
Replies: 2,329
Views: 433,228
Posted By White Hart

Northerner "..but it's not going to win you...

Northerner

"..but it's not going to win you the support you really need..."

I and my ATSA 2 colleagues have spent the last 3 years expending time, effort and energy into simply trying to...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st May 2009, 20:15
Replies: 2,329
Views: 433,228
Posted By White Hart

Northerner sorry, but I disagree. From my...

Northerner

sorry, but I disagree. From my own perspective as an ATSA 2, I've watched my Unit systematically decimated by poor management; new technology sometimes not fit for purpose;...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th May 2009, 22:17
Replies: 2,329
Views: 433,228
Posted By White Hart

The policy is to offer VR first (assuming the...

The policy is to offer VR first (assuming the cash is available in the affected Unit's budget to pay for it), followed by volunteers to relocate (assuming there's a vacancy to go to), followed by...
Forum: ATC Issues
14th May 2009, 15:28
Replies: 32
Views: 23,873
Posted By White Hart

I wonder how many NATS NSL staff are taking a bit...

I wonder how many NATS NSL staff are taking a bit more notice of this thread than they normally would??
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