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Electro-Magnetic Interference v avionics
Does anyone know from where I can glean the latest Electro-Magnetic Interference/Compatability EMI/C data and regulations? I was just wondering how the shielding and protection of our avionics systems countered the transmission levels and interference patterns of modern mobile phones/MP3 players/palm-tops/wi-fi etc.
I am sure there has been a lot of research done out there by various boffins/organisations but I get the impression we take for granted (just a little bit) the immunity of our modern ac from such 'wiggly-amps'. Thanks in anticipation flipster |
In Europe there is the EMC Directive which is downloadable from the Europa website, which applies to Machinery. This is backed up by Standards which are not downloadable, and cost a lot from the likes of BSI. The Standards list the levels of emissions and immunity, and it depends upon what the equipment is. We wouldn't have aviation Standards for example.
The company I work for does EMC testing and we find that most manufacturers don't bother doing it, relying on 'good electrical practice'. The majority of machines we test anyway fail first time. This does not necessarily mean they are dangerous, but could be subject to unexpected movements - not a problem generally on the ground, but could be at 40,000 feet. Anything with variable frequency drives is likely to cause problems, many conveyor systems and some GSE have issues. We tested some equipment used to build bridges, as it was considered they could be a danger to low flying aircraft in the vicinity... I was on a 747 in the middle of the Atlantic when a message came over the tannoy about turbulence. It caused all of the video equipment to freeze and had to be reset - the EMC engineer with me told me it was an EMC problem on the aircraft, not what I wanted to hear at that moment. I do think it is a growing problem, because so many people ignore it, and it is not policed very well in the UK, less so in the rest of Europe, although I believe Russia are very hot on it. |
I was on a 747 in the middle of the Atlantic when a message came over the tannoy about turbulence. It caused all of the video equipment to freeze and had to be reset - the EMC engineer with me told me it was an EMC problem on the aircraft, not what I wanted to hear at that moment |
I know that IFE normally freezes during announcements, then carries on, but this caused channels to change and the system had to be reset, it wasn't a normal occurrence, it was a definite fault. It wasn't an old aircraft either.
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I suspect that the IFE just had a hiccup because of the interruption during the PA.
If its anything like the rockwell collins IFE on some of ours I'm surprised it ever worked again.:uhoh: |
Thanks for input peeps. However, it does seem as if there is dearth of widely-available knowledge out there. There seems to be anecdotal evidence that may indicate that things are not all as rosy as we would like. Some pilots may wish to know such things like:
How do you physically protect electronic/avionic eqpt from EMI - how is this done and maintained? How does this protection work and can it be compromised? What frequencies/powers are most dangerous and where in the cabin is the effect greatest? How does such interference manifest itself and is there a pattern - eg comms, nav, warning systems, fire detectors etc? How do mobiles/ipods/wiFi/PDAs etc differ from country to country, along with any differences in EMI protection? Just how good is the 'flightsafe' mode of the average mobiles - how does it work? What research studies back this? Do recent studies take into account the effect on the EM intensity and subsequent interfernce patterns by the proliferation of the number of mobile phones on each flight? These days, the likelihood is that almost every passanger aboard will have a mobile phone/laptop/ipod/PDA with WiFi etc, while most pax will not even listen to the welcome PA, never mind switch off their 'toys'? and so on.... Any pointers gratefully accepted. flipster |
Pick up a copy latest revision of RTCA DO-160 (RTCA Products) . It contains enviromental and EMC testing standards for avionics equipment.
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Portable Electronic Device Generated Electro-magnetic Fields on Board a Large Transport Aeroplane
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP756.PDF |
Aircraft EMI - susceptibility
flipster, during a 42-year career, most on-aircraft susceptibilities experienced were due to:
on-frequency emissions coupled to an avionic receiver antenna undesired high-intensity fields coupled to wires connected to remoted sensors or part of an analog feed-back loop. The latter were often parts of flight and engine controls. Best fixes were to run the signal on the digital bus rather than analog. If analog, filter and wire shield. Twist wires from multi-phase sensors such as synchros. w3hoDoug, ISASI MO4415 |
EMI Elements
There are four:
1. Source 2. Coupling 3. Victim 4. Degradation Mitigation involves breaking the chain in one or more of many ways. |
Thanks for help peeps!
I am getting the impression that few understand the severity of the threat and the possible interference by the 'RF soup' with our aircarft systems. I, for one, will be keeping a weather eye open for the slightest suspicion of EMI and will also be modifying my welcome PAs. CAP 756 is interesting reading as are many of the references within - rather scary if you ask me! Flip |
Best fixes were to run the signal on the digital bus rather than analog. If analog, filter and wire shield. Twist wires from multi-phase sensors such as synchros. |
Usa Ntsb & Emi
The NTSB engineers are learning.
************************************************************ NTSB ADVISORY ************************************************************ National Transportation Safety Board Washington, DC 20594 July 23, 2009 ************************************************************ THIRD UPDATE ON NTSB INVESTIGATION INTO COLLISION OF TWO METRORAIL TRAINS IN WASHINGTON, D.C. ************************************************************ The National Transportation Safety Board continues to make progress in its investigation of the June 22, 2009, collision of two Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA) trains on the Red Line in Washington, D.C. The Board has developed the following factual information: Two signal companies, Ansaldo STS USA (US&S) and Alstom Signaling Inc. (GRS), that designed and manufactured the automatic train control components for the WMATA system, are providing technical assistance to the NTSB investigation. As previously reported, an impedance bond (#15) for the track circuit where the accident occurred was replaced on June 17th, 2009, five days before the accident. Continued review of the maintenance logs has identified that the impedance bond (#14), located on the other end of the same circuit, was replaced in December 2007. WMATA records reveal that this track circuit's train occupancy signal has been intermittently fluctuating since the replacement was installed in December 2007. The NTSB has requested trouble tickets for the last 18 months to see if these problems had been reported, and seeking records to see if any operators reported problems on this circuit. The investigation is identifying possible sources of interference affecting the automatic train control (ATC) operation. These potential sources include Electromagnetic Interference (EMI), traction power harmonics and signal crosstalk, communication lines, and system upgrades and changes. Following the accident, WMATA began to review operations data and identified some problems at other circuits. These anomalies are being examined by NTSB and WMATA to determine if they are the same kinds of problems as were found in the location of the accident site. Testing has identified that the circuit problems are occurring more frequently during the rush hour time period. As a result, the NTSB and WMATA testing at the accident location on the Red Line is continuing. These tests may result in occasional delays on the Red Line in the Fort Totten area. All testing in the Fort Totten area is closely coordinated with WMATA and is scheduled to minimize delays on that area of track during rush hour. On Saturday, July 18, the NTSB conducted a sight distance test at the accident location. Information collected from the test will be correlated with rail markings documented after the accident, the braking characteristics of the striking train, and the speed information gleaned from the WMATA Operations Control Center records. |
More USA NTSB Education re low-frequency EMI
It happens - not just in yaw damper position sensor LVDT's.
>>>>> ************************************************************ NTSB PRESS RELEASE ************************************************************ National Transportation Safety Board Washington, DC 20594 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: September 22, 2009 SB-09-53 ************************************************************ NTSB IDENTIFIES SIGNAL FAILURE IN FATAL DC METRORAIL COLLISION; ISSUES URGENT SAFETY RECOMMENDATIONS TO TRANSIT AUTHORITY, FEDERAL RAIL AGENCIES, AND CIRCUIT MANUFACTURER ************************************************************ The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) today issued nine safety recommendations, six of which are urgent, to address concerns about the safety of train control systems that use audio frequency track circuits. The recommendations are the result of NTSB's ongoing investigation into the collision between two Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA) trains on the Red Line near the Fort Totten station in Washington, D.C., on June 22, 2009. During the investigation, the NTSB has discovered that a failure occurred in which a spurious signal generated by a track circuit module transmitter mimicked a valid signal and bypassed the rails via an unintended signal path. The spurious signal was sensed by the module receiver which resulted in the train not being detected when it stopped in the track circuit where the accident occurred. The NTSB made specific recommendations to the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority and to Alstom Signaling, Inc., the manufacturer of the track circuit modules at the Fort Totten station, to examine the WMATA track circuits and work together to eliminate adverse conditions that could affect the safe performance of these systems. Additionally, the NTSB called upon WMATA to develop a program to periodically determine that the electronic components in its train control systems are performing within design tolerances. Although the NTSB's investigation is not yet complete and no determination of probable cause has been reached, the NTSB is concerned about the safety of train control system circuitry used in comparable rail and transit operations in other parts of the country. Therefore, the NTSB recommended that the Federal Transit Administration (FTA) and the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) advise all rail transit operators and railroads that use audio frequency track circuits in their train control systems about these findings from the Fort Totten accident investigation. The NTSB also recommended that the FTA and FRA have transit operators and railroads that use audio frequency track circuits examine their track circuits and work with their signal equipment manufacturer(s) to eliminate adverse conditions that could affect the safe performance of these systems, and to develop programs to periodically determine that the electronic components in their train control systems are performing within design tolerances. "After only 3 months, this complex investigation is far from complete, so we are not ready to determine the probable cause of the accident on WMATA," said Chairman Deborah A.P. Hersman. "However, our findings so far indicate a pressing need to issue these recommendations to immediately address safety glitches we have found that could lead to another tragic accident on WMATA or another transit or rail system." In accordance with NTSB protocol, the letters were addressed to the heads of each organization with a request for a response from each organization within 30 days on the urgent recommendations, addressing the actions taken or planned in response to the Board's recommendations. The safety recommendation letter to WMATA may be found here: http://www.ntsb.gov/recs/letters/2009/R09_15_16.pdf The safety recommendation to Alstom Signaling, Inc., may be found here: http://www.ntsb.gov/recs/letters/2009/R09_23.pdf The safety recommendations letter to FTA may be found here: http://www.ntsb.gov/recs/letters/2009/R09_17_18_19.pdf The safety recommendation letter to the FRA may be found here: http://www.ntsb.gov/recs/letters/2009/R09_20_21_22.pdf |
EMI Confirmed by NTSB today
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NTSB SAFETY RECOMMENDATION ************************************************************ National Transportation Safety Board Washington, DC 20594 August 11, 2010 ************************************************************ NTSB Safety Recommendations R-10-8 through -22 ************************************************************ The National Transportation Safety Board makes the following safety recommendations to the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority: Because of the susceptibility to pulse-type parasitic oscillation that can cause a loss of train detection by the Generation 2 General Railway Signal Company audio frequency track circuit modules, establish a program to permanently remove from service all of these modules within the Metrorail system. (R-10-8) Establish periodic inspection and maintenance procedures to examine all audio frequency track circuit modules within the Metrorail system to identify and remove from service any modules that exhibit pulse-type parasitic oscillation. (R- 10-9) Review the process by which Metrorail technical bulletins and other safety information are provided to employees and revise that process as necessary to ensure that (1) employees have received the information intended for them, (2) employees understand the actions to be taken in response to the information, and (3) employees take the appropriate actions. (R-10-10) Completely remove the unnecessary Metrorail wayside maintenance communication system to eliminate its potential for interfering with the proper functioning of the train control system. (R-10-11) Conduct a comprehensive safety analysis of the Metrorail automatic train control system to evaluate all foreseeable failures of this system that could result in a loss of train separation, and work with your train control equipment manufacturers to address in that analysis all potential failure modes that could cause a loss of train detection, including parasitic oscillation, cable faults and placement, and corrugated rail. (R-10-12) Based on the findings of the safety analysis recommended in R-10-12 incorporate the design, operational, and maintenance controls necessary to address potential failures in the automatic train control system. (R-10-13) Implement cable insulation resistance testing as part of Metrorail's periodic maintenance program. (R-10-14) Work with the Tri-State Oversight Committee to satisfactorily address the recommendations contained in the Federal Transit Administration's March 4, 2010, final report of its audit of the Tri-State Oversight Committee and the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority. (R-10-15) Require that your safety department; representatives of the operations, maintenance, and engineering departments; and representatives of labor organizations regularly review recorded operational data from Metrorail train onboard recorders and the Advanced Information Management system to identify safety issues and trends and share the results across all divisions of your organization. (R-10-16) Develop and implement a non-punitive safety reporting program to collect reports from employees in all divisions within your organization, and ensure that the safety department; representatives of the operations, maintenance, and engineering departments; and representatives of labor organizations regularly review these reports and share the results of those reviews across all divisions of your organization. (R-10-17) Review the Hazard Identification and Resolution Matrix process in your system safety program plan to ensure that safety-critical systems such as the automatic train control system and its subsystem components are assigned appropriate levels of risk in light of the issues identified in this accident. (R-10-18) Develop a formal process by which the general manager and managers responsible for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority operations, maintenance, and engineering will periodically review, in collaboration with the chief safety officer, all safety audits and open corrective action plans, and modify policy, identify and commit resources, and initiate any other action necessary to ensure that the plans are adequately addressed and closed within the required time frame. (R-10-19) Remove all 1000-series railcars as soon as possible and replace them with cars that have crashworthiness collision protection at least comparable to the 6000-series railcars. (R-10-20) Ensure that the lead married-pair car set of each train is equipped with an operating onboard event recorder. (R-10-21) Develop and implement a program to monitor the performance of onboard event recorders and ensure they are functioning properly. (R-10-22) ************************************************************ http://www.ntsb.gov/recs/letters/2010/R-10-008-022.pdf ************************************************************ The complete recommendation letter is available on the Web at the URL indicated above. The letter is in the Portable Document Format (PDF) and can be read using the Acrobat Reader 5.0 or later from Adobe (http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html). An archive of recommendation letters is available at http://www.ntsb.gov/recs/letters/letters.htm. Electronic versions of letters may or may not include enclosures; however, related publications, accident briefs, and aviation accident synopses may be found on the NTSB website. ************************************************************ This message is delivered to you as a free service from the National Transportation Safety Board. 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