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FNFF 7th Mar 2012 14:35

UK Independent Pilots Association (IPA) releases documentary film on Pilot Fatigue
 
In response to ongoing proposed European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) plans to change Flight Time Limitations (FTLs), the UK pilot union, the Independent Pilots Association (IPA) has this week released a documentary film entitled ‘Pilot Fatigue’ on the serious and ongoing issue of crew fatigue that it has co-produced with Fact Not Fiction Films .

The film is being sent to every Lord, MP and aviation interested party to ensure everyone is aware of the serious consequences of failing to have properly created, science based, FTLs. The film is also being sent free to all IPA members.

More details at:

Independent Pilots Association releases film on Pilot Fatigue | SourceWire

Welcome to the IPA

Pilot Fatigue - A Fact Not Fiction Films documentary.

vinayak 7th Mar 2012 15:53

would love to see it...

Torque Tonight 7th Mar 2012 16:11

If the IPA are trying to get the message out (and good on them for doing so) wouldn't it be better to freely distribute the DVDs (as BALPA did with Toxic Air) or make the film viewable online.... RATHER THAN CHARGING £17.99 TO BUY THE DVD!

I can't really see it flying off the shelves.

Pilot Fatigue [PAL] [pf-dvd] - £17.99 : DFT Enterprises, Film Distribution and Online Sales

FNFF 7th Mar 2012 16:18

DVDs free to IPA members
 
The film is being sent to every IPA member for free.

angelorange 7th Mar 2012 17:07

Life ain't free!
 
Film is "free" to all IPA members no matter the grade of membership

Aero Toxic was free through BALPA and IPA but I didn't see it available elsewhere paid or otherwise.

All campaigns cost money from cancer research to the fight against malaria

Dream Buster 7th Mar 2012 18:29

Well done the IPA...
 
Once again the IPA have shown the 'bigger' Union :\ how to represent their members interests.

Well done - can't wait to see it - to send the DVD out to every Lord, MP and IPA member is a very, very smart move.

McBruce 7th Mar 2012 18:56

Whats the point of making this publication if the general public doesn't get to see it? am I the only one that thinks they're a bunch of idiots?

gorter 7th Mar 2012 19:24

The 'bigger' union was too busy arguing their point in parliament and getting their members to write 90% of the responses to the initial EASA proposal and whipping up their membership to writing thousands of letters to their mp's and getting on the news channels.

Sitting on their backsides really.

vinayak 7th Mar 2012 20:10

someone please youtube it... don't ship to india :ouch:

wiggy 8th Mar 2012 05:45


Once again the IPA have shown the 'bigger' Union how to represent their members interests.
ROFL

As gorter has said months ago BALPA was distributing info, urging it's members to take part in the EASA consultation process and many of it's members attended parliament in person to lobby MPs weeks if not months ago.....

Link here to BALPA's campaign website:

BALPA - Flight Time Limitations

I suspect in reality the IPA is too "late on parade", since the UK consulation process has almost finished - written to the CAA and your MP yet?

sky9 8th Mar 2012 15:24


am I the only one that thinks they're a bunch of idiots?
No you're not the only one.

doyll 8th Mar 2012 18:50

Might be able to view it online on:
Pilot Fatigue - A Fact Not Fiction Films documentary.


DISTRIBUTION INFORMATION
To view an industry preview copy of the film online, please contact our sales team for a password or further information at:
[email protected]
Hope it works

Edit:
Got this reply

The film is distributed in the UK on DVD by DFT Enterprises at DFT Enterprises, Film Distribution and Online Sales

Regards

FNFF

Juan Tugoh 9th Mar 2012 17:27

It's a shame that this potentially important film has been made for commercial gain and not to inform and educate. Why do I say that? Simple, you have to pay to watch it. I admire that they made a film about an important subject, I feel rather let down that filthy lucre has made it irrelevant as hardly anyone will see it. I suppose that someone made it is better than nothing, but the very fact that the IPA or bALPA did not fund it in toto makes it a dead end. For it to do any good it needs to be on free distribution. Sadly it is a largely wasted (if noble) effort.:{

angelorange 9th Mar 2012 17:40

Miserly Moaning pilots
 
Some pilots are happy to pay for a big watch that is less accurate than a $5 Casio. Others even pay £120k for their training. Some pay RYR to look at their CV, pay for interview and then pay to get a type rating and enter a contractor holding pool!

As soon as someone raises their head above the parapet for the benefit of fellow pilots by spending serious money on a valuable documentary and what do you do? Aw it's so expensive! Compared to 1% of your salary to the "bigger" union?

Commercial gain? Why bash something that potentially will do more for Pilots than BBC parliament in raising the issue to the public - once the press have it they can broadcast it and you'll still pay for BBC or Sky BSB.

So would you expect all documentaries by Charities or by the BBC to be free as well?

They all need funding - so why should film makers do it for free? Especially for "rich" pilots! (enter your airline salary here to see where you come out of 6 billion: Global Rich List )

They have mouths to feed as much as anyone else!

Karl H 9th Mar 2012 17:45

Me 2 like to see the film

Dream Buster 9th Mar 2012 19:26


It's a shame that this potentially important film has been made for commercial gain and not to inform and educate.
Juan - Do you honestly think the IPA made this film to make money?

It is - as you so rightly say - to 'inform and educate' and the politicians (who make the laws) and IPA members get a free copy - plus can lend it to friends etc.

So please understand that nobody can just 'give, give, give' the whole time - without trying to balance the books.

It is absolutely not a wasted effort; but I agree it would be incredibly helpful if it could be broadcast on TV, as it is such a life and death issue for anyone who flies.



PS. The IPA have about 900 members, ~ 600 MP's & 600 Lords = 2000 + DVD's.....all sent - FREE (inc. P&P!)

Juan Tugoh 9th Mar 2012 21:08

Angelorange -talk about missing the point. I can easily afford to buy this film but I am already aware of the issues of fatigued pilots.

If this film is to do any real good it has to get to a wide audience and increase public awareness. Joe Public is highly unlikely to pay to see this film but may watch it if they don't have to pay. YouTube is the real new frontier in this form of infomercial where viewing is free. Watching a movie at the local multiplex with all the latest special effects and the biggest stars in 3D and IMAX does not cost as much as this film.

The issue is that it doesn't matter how worthy this film is - and I am sure that it is - but who gets to see it. If you want politicians to be swayed by the argument, that is fine, but it also needs public pressure, not just lobbying from groups with a vested interest.

Problem Solver 9th Mar 2012 21:11

I too would love to see a copy - - then spread the essence of the message to the widespread aviation community that I am involved it. But EUR17.95? No way.

Commuting Pilot 9th Mar 2012 22:21

I'm a bit naive but could you not buy a copy, convert to mpeg4 with Handbrake, then upload to YouTube? If so then I'll do it...

Popgun 9th Mar 2012 23:01

Youtube the answer...
 
This is such an important issue to get out to the masses!

FFS - Someone just put it on Youtube so the general public will watch it.

No amount of lobbying, paid advertising and publicity can compete with that.



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