ICAO Docs on the net?
 

Hi all,

Im lookin to download Icao docs from online- like doc 4444 and Annex 10.

Anyone know where I can get them... pref free :)

Thanks and cheers

You'll have to open a subscription with ICAO - the mother of all regulations don't give it away for fee.
Your local CAA are supposed to stock the printed edition.

subscribtion to subscription

I thought that any UN organisation, as per the UN charter, was supposed to provide its documented practices, recommendations and standards f.o.c. Maybe I'm wrong again?

I'm not sure that ICAO is a UN organisation. It is established by the Convention on International Civil Aviation rather than by the UN.

ICAO is a part of the UN. For reference an extract from the ICAO web page:

Convention on International Civil Aviation (also known as Chicago Convention), was signed on 7 December 1944 by 52 States. Pending ratification of the Convention by 26 States, the Provisional International Civil Aviation Organization (PICAO) was established. It functioned from 6 June 1945 until 4 April 1947. By 5 March 1947 the 26th ratification was received. ICAO came into being on 4 April 1947. In October of the same year, ICAO became a specialized agency of the United Nations linked to Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC).

Yep, ICAO regulations are not free of charge - unlike FARs or JARs. Actually, only Section 1 of JARs is published on the JAA website and Section 2 you have to buy.

Ponitus Pilot

Sorry I was perhaps a little too brief in my reply, it was a long day.

ICAO is, as you rightly point out, a "specialised agency" of the UN. It became a specialised agency by virtue of a relationship defined in arrangements made between ICAO and UN Economic and Social Council under provisions of Articles 57 and 63 of the UN Charter.

The point I was trying to make is that ICAO was not set up by the UN but under an International Convention . Therefore UN Charter provisions on the availability of documents mention by df1 (if they exist) do not necessarily apply.

Having now double checked the pricing policy for ICAO documents is set by ICAO and contained in the ICAO Publications Regulations (Doc 7231/8, price $18!).