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Old 15th Mar 2017, 00:22
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Cabin crew pour water on battery fire?

Headphones explode on Beijing to Melbourne flight http://dailym.ai/2mXvVEh

According to this report, cabin crew poured water on a battery fire?
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 00:32
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I would hope that they did. That's what they're meant to do.
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 01:11
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Yes, but not when the item is sitting on the floor. There are things called electrons underneath....
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 01:18
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There's electrons in pretty much everything?
aaa or aa battery in headphones is surely not dangerous in water. On fire or otherwise.
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Yes, but not when the item is sitting on the floor. There are things called electrons underneath....
Err, there are electrons absolutely freaking everywhere, and in everything. Pretty much anything composed of atoms has the sneaky little bastards.

Did you mean electronics?
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Take all journalistic writings with a large dose of salt when it comes to accuracy of reporting. The more accurate reports state that the CC produced a bucket of water and dunked the offending headphones into it, which would be the correct process for a small Li-ion battery.
The smaller Li-ion batteries contain only relatively small amounts of lithium, unlike the larger Lithium-metal batteries, which contain more lithium as a % of their construction, and which require foam, Halon, CO2, ABC dry chemical, powdered graphite, copper powder, or sodium carbonate style of fire extinguisher. IMO, dry chemical is the most effective electrical fire extinguisher, but it's quite messy.

Some comprehensive and accurate information in the website below, from a bloke who has a background in battery engineering and manufacture ...

Safety concerns with regard to Li-ion batteries

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Old 15th Mar 2017, 03:10
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I'd hope pouring water on the floor of an aircraft isn't a hazard. Drinks are served to kids. Surely water being poured in he floor is safe. The "fire" is more an issue - I'd have thought/hoped.
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 08:35
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I believe these batteries were in headphones. It looks as though the lass wearing them was hurt. Any idea as to the make? (I realise some headphones have a AAA but others have a non standard battery.)
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 09:29
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Yes, but not when the item is sitting on the floor. There are things called electrons underneath....
Notwithstanding electrons... Have you seen the amount of water that lands inside a freighter with an open side cargo door? Sure it has sometimes created problems, but a couple of bottles of water poured on an immediate threat on a cabin floor is not an issue.
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 09:51
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I would hope that they did. That's what they're meant to do.
What he said.

10 minutes into this video is what the UK CAA say.

https://youtu.be/pOiwEW54xL8
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 09:55
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The cabin crew took the correct action according to the FAA as well;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS6K...ature=youtu.be
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Great video here for understanding flammability and L batteries, but length warning applies.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FGyKN3...ature=youtu.be
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 11:41
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I wonder if she was laying with her head to one side and the earphone was insulated by the seat or a pillow. There have been some cases of phone catching fire when they have been placed under pillows at night. Lack of cooling airflow - batteries overheat!
The Cabin Crew were doing as they were trained. You can find some free Lithium Battery Fire courses here. Lithium Battery Fires and how to fight them
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Next time buy a proper pair of Beats not a Chinese knockoff.
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I wonder how the next batch of Samsung phones will fare given that the Galaxy Note 4 was a disaster. I believe they're due out at the end of the month.
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ITYM Note 7.

The Note 4 hasn't been current[sic] since Pontious solo'd.
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 12:55
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Exploding headphones injure sleeping woman on Beijing to Melbourne flight

Ouch, though the attempt to disguise her identity reminds me of the Two Ronnie's sketch where the presenter was sitting in the darkened seat, and the snitch in the lit one.

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Selfie in the lavatory...?
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I'd hope pouring water on the floor of an aircraft isn't a hazard. Drinks are served to kids. Surely water being poured in he floor is safe. The "fire" is more an issue - I'd have thought/hoped.
http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...ter-aisle.html
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 14:49
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Originally Posted by ChicoG View Post
Next time buy a proper pair of Beats not a Chinese knockoff.

I agree, yet the fake market at the Shanghai Science and Technology Museum continues to be a regular stop for crew members on PVG overnights.


I worry more about "the deal" in the FOs bag than I do about the declared batteries on the NOTOC.






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