Audio files needed. "Mayday" examples.
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Audio files needed. "Mayday" examples.
Thanks for looking. I'm a bit out of my depth with regards to using the internet and Powerpoint so I thought I'd ask the Pprune collective for some help.
I'm writing a module for a CRM refresher course and wanted 2 examples of Mayday audio recordings where ones is a good clear example and the other is an unintelligable mess of vocabulary and shouting.
For the first one I thought that the Sullenberger recording was about the best example of cool, calm and clear comms I could remember but I haven't yet found a downloadable version that I can cut and paste into a powerpoint presentation. Can anyone help here?
As to the second one, I'd be grateful for any links, samples or suggestions of accidents/incidents that are examples of verbal and vocal communications going awry during times of high stress. A few years ago I heard someone with an electric/instrument problem trying to tell the Barcelona controller that he had multiple PFD failures but the language gap just left the controller confused and unable to appreciate the requests from the crew. Something like that might be alright.
I hope this makes sense.
Thanks
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I'm writing a module for a CRM refresher course and wanted 2 examples of Mayday audio recordings where ones is a good clear example and the other is an unintelligable mess of vocabulary and shouting.
For the first one I thought that the Sullenberger recording was about the best example of cool, calm and clear comms I could remember but I haven't yet found a downloadable version that I can cut and paste into a powerpoint presentation. Can anyone help here?
As to the second one, I'd be grateful for any links, samples or suggestions of accidents/incidents that are examples of verbal and vocal communications going awry during times of high stress. A few years ago I heard someone with an electric/instrument problem trying to tell the Barcelona controller that he had multiple PFD failures but the language gap just left the controller confused and unable to appreciate the requests from the crew. Something like that might be alright.
I hope this makes sense.
Thanks
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As far as you are just looking for something downloadable, I'd suggest the file from the Wikipedia article on Cactus 1549. Not sure if you can use it with Powerpoint, though.
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Maybe try LiveATC Recordings | LiveATC.net and/or the forum there (you'll have to register).
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I always use the Thomsonfly video as an example of a "good" mayday.
For "Bad" ones, search youtube for "9815L", which has a panic-stricken call from an inexperienced pilot, and look out for "American 2 Heavy" audio, which is a commercial flight with the pilot being a complete pain in the ****, declaring an emergency and making life unnecessarily awkward for ATC.
For "Bad" ones, search youtube for "9815L", which has a panic-stricken call from an inexperienced pilot, and look out for "American 2 Heavy" audio, which is a commercial flight with the pilot being a complete pain in the ****, declaring an emergency and making life unnecessarily awkward for ATC.
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Another version of very good verbal communication in an emergency situation is the air traffic controller in the BA 777 at LHR.
It is a demonstration of both good verbal comms from the controller, but also good reception by people being spoken to (the controller of the other runway for example, no multi questions, just "ok" and gets on with the job).
It is a multi faceted example where one person is speaking to multiple people at the same time but still carrying out his primary role of controlling aircraft.
Also "findable" with YouTube with a radar plot of where vehicles are.
It is a demonstration of both good verbal comms from the controller, but also good reception by people being spoken to (the controller of the other runway for example, no multi questions, just "ok" and gets on with the job).
It is a multi faceted example where one person is speaking to multiple people at the same time but still carrying out his primary role of controlling aircraft.
Also "findable" with YouTube with a radar plot of where vehicles are.
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Thanks again, guys.
I've tried copying the audio files onto a powerpoint presentation but the technology has defeated me. Any ideas as to how I can copy either the audio or the whole Youtube thing? Is it legal to do so?
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I've tried copying the audio files onto a powerpoint presentation but the technology has defeated me. Any ideas as to how I can copy either the audio or the whole Youtube thing? Is it legal to do so?
Thanks
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Downloading Youtube videos is pretty straightforward with the Mozilla Firefox web browser. The programme offers the installation of an add-on called "Flash Video Downloader". Once the add-on is installed, you'll see a download button appearing under the Youtube videos.
As for the sound file on Wikipedia I've mentioned above, you should be able to download it with right click and "save as".
One word concerning the file types: Youtube videos are flash videos (*.flv) and the file on Wikipedia is an *.ogg file. You might have trouble playing those files with Windows Media Player. Last time I used Windows Media Player, which is a while ago now, it wouldn't play these file types, so I switched to the VLC media player. I had seen a lot of colleagues with a background in engineering using it in their presentations and thought if all the boffins are using it it can't be that bad, and indeed the VLC media player turned out to be much better than the Windows Media Player.
I reckon once you've downloaded the files onto your hard disk, it shouldn't be a problem to place a link to them in your Powerpoint presentation. However, reading your posts again, I'm beginning to think you want to embed the videos or sound files rather than link to them. In this case, maybe you can find some help here on Microsoft's website.
As for the sound file on Wikipedia I've mentioned above, you should be able to download it with right click and "save as".
One word concerning the file types: Youtube videos are flash videos (*.flv) and the file on Wikipedia is an *.ogg file. You might have trouble playing those files with Windows Media Player. Last time I used Windows Media Player, which is a while ago now, it wouldn't play these file types, so I switched to the VLC media player. I had seen a lot of colleagues with a background in engineering using it in their presentations and thought if all the boffins are using it it can't be that bad, and indeed the VLC media player turned out to be much better than the Windows Media Player.
I reckon once you've downloaded the files onto your hard disk, it shouldn't be a problem to place a link to them in your Powerpoint presentation. However, reading your posts again, I'm beginning to think you want to embed the videos or sound files rather than link to them. In this case, maybe you can find some help here on Microsoft's website.
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Perhaps this will solve your problem; you can extract the audio track from a youtube video and download it to mp3. No registration, no software downloads required. Very simple. Just copy and paste the youtube link.
YouTube to mp3 Converter
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Wave Corrector is a neat application for transferring vinyl records to digital. It is mainly used to transfer vinyl to digital file format and remove some of the scratchiness from recordings but it is also a useful program to record audio from a PC if you select the PC as input and save as an audio file.
Wave Corrector: Process Vinyl Records and Tapes
Wave Corrector: Process Vinyl Records and Tapes
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Thanks guys.
I'm going to use the Cactus 1549 and the N-9815L audio because they are both good examples of the extremes of effective communication and are also very clear and will come through a set of laptop-esque speakers inside a training room.
I've had success copying the audio files and now just need to get the links working on the Powerpoint file. Should be finished this week.
Cheers!
I'm going to use the Cactus 1549 and the N-9815L audio because they are both good examples of the extremes of effective communication and are also very clear and will come through a set of laptop-esque speakers inside a training room.
I've had success copying the audio files and now just need to get the links working on the Powerpoint file. Should be finished this week.
Cheers!
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For inserting the audio into the PPT presentation, there are some handy hints here;
Add and play sounds in a presentation - PowerPoint - Office.com and
How do I make a sound play across several slides on powerpoint? - Yahoo! Answers
It may also depend whether you are embedding or linking in the presentation.
Add and play sounds in a presentation - PowerPoint - Office.com and
How do I make a sound play across several slides on powerpoint? - Yahoo! Answers
It may also depend whether you are embedding or linking in the presentation.
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To download a video as a MP4 file or as a MP3 audio file from youtube, insert 'pwn' just before 'youtube' into the url...
Example :
Insert 'pwn' like this : http://www.pwnyoutube.com/watch?v=hTyv8f-_8Mw
Then follow the instructions.
My 2 cents.
Example :
Insert 'pwn' like this : http://www.pwnyoutube.com/watch?v=hTyv8f-_8Mw
Then follow the instructions.
My 2 cents.
