L@ser attacks on Aircraft
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AMEand PPL,
Direct adverts for these 'things' have already been eliminated by the mods.
The links in the latest posts were there simply to illustrate what sort of things are unfortunately still available on the open market without any sort of license.
So I think you're vastly overreacting.
You don't really think these morons 1) read PPRuNe and 2) need it to find their 'toys', when undoubtedly they find them either by word of mouth, or simply via Google.
You could do worse than read some of the "reviews" of the various models on that site. Such as "wow, burns through plastic right across the room", "lights matches across the room", "burns through a ream of copy paper", "aiming spot visible even over more than a mile", "great for pointing into the sky", "great for popping balloons", "my friends were very impressed".....
No mention anywhere of any "useful" uses. Just playthings to impress the boys. And since there's so little you can do with them, you can even see how some of these cretins have come up with the idea of shining them at aircraft.
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Direct adverts for these 'things' have already been eliminated by the mods.
The links in the latest posts were there simply to illustrate what sort of things are unfortunately still available on the open market without any sort of license.
So I think you're vastly overreacting.
You don't really think these morons 1) read PPRuNe and 2) need it to find their 'toys', when undoubtedly they find them either by word of mouth, or simply via Google.
You could do worse than read some of the "reviews" of the various models on that site. Such as "wow, burns through plastic right across the room", "lights matches across the room", "burns through a ream of copy paper", "aiming spot visible even over more than a mile", "great for pointing into the sky", "great for popping balloons", "my friends were very impressed".....
No mention anywhere of any "useful" uses. Just playthings to impress the boys. And since there's so little you can do with them, you can even see how some of these cretins have come up with the idea of shining them at aircraft.
CJ
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Seems half the ned population of Aberdeen have bloody lasers...
Police investigating two incidents between 6 & 6.30pm where two pilots reported having lasers shone at them.
Thankfully, so said the news, both planes landed safely (avoiding the obligatory school on the way...
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Why the hell can these tw@ts still get their hands on these things?
Police investigating two incidents between 6 & 6.30pm where two pilots reported having lasers shone at them.
Thankfully, so said the news, both planes landed safely (avoiding the obligatory school on the way...
)Why the hell can these tw@ts still get their hands on these things?
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Action Down Under
This is what it's taken for us down in Oz to take these items seriously...
Gabba laser lout faces fine after cricketer targeted | The Courier-Mail
Point them at aircraft, and it sometimes gets a mention in the news. But it's got to be pointed at a sportsman to get action from the government/police.
DIVOSH!
Gabba laser lout faces fine after cricketer targeted | The Courier-Mail
Point them at aircraft, and it sometimes gets a mention in the news. But it's got to be pointed at a sportsman to get action from the government/police.
DIVOSH!
Did I read recently that there's been a change in the law, where the offence now is that of purely shining a laser at an aircraft? In other words there is no longer a requirement to try and prove that the aircraft was being endangered.
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Why?
Why do y'all spell the word with a '@'? I tried searching the forum to see how it started, but apparently it is not findable that way. Is this perhaps the reason?
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I live in aus and am a fan of 'them'. You already know if you've read through the thread.
But that cricketer didn't get all that much publicity, only becuase it was actualy cought on camera it was 'shown'...
But what dissapoints me is that a 'pointer' is illegal to import but lab and modules are not. I think the ownership and usage should be tightened the hell up. I know I own them and I don't have a permit, but stuff it I'm not going to get a permit. Unless they are free
But then me and the 'irresponsibles' will get alot more.
Well I'd rather have flying lessons
But that cricketer didn't get all that much publicity, only becuase it was actualy cought on camera it was 'shown'...
But what dissapoints me is that a 'pointer' is illegal to import but lab and modules are not. I think the ownership and usage should be tightened the hell up. I know I own them and I don't have a permit, but stuff it I'm not going to get a permit. Unless they are free
But then me and the 'irresponsibles' will get alot more.Well I'd rather have flying lessons
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I take it the flying lessons would include being blinded at some stage of your landing, albeit with the luxury of knowing there's a safety pilot ready to take over ?
Better make it a strong 'dose' to leave temporary effects even after landing, as some have suffered.
As pointed out earlier on this thread, what the hell do you do with the things ?
I can imagine about 5 minutes of ' gee, I've got a laser just like in the films ' but after that it's useless - leading to stupid acts like pointing at aircraft.
I've seen much the same thing with people who bought high speed radio controlled cars - after a while of go straight, go left, go right, they ended up deliberately crashing the things just 'for fun'.
These l*sers can't be cheap - why not get something you'll probably get a lot more enduring fun out of, like a r/c aircraft - you're obviously vagueley into aircraft to find this site.
Better make it a strong 'dose' to leave temporary effects even after landing, as some have suffered.
As pointed out earlier on this thread, what the hell do you do with the things ?
I can imagine about 5 minutes of ' gee, I've got a laser just like in the films ' but after that it's useless - leading to stupid acts like pointing at aircraft.
I've seen much the same thing with people who bought high speed radio controlled cars - after a while of go straight, go left, go right, they ended up deliberately crashing the things just 'for fun'.
These l*sers can't be cheap - why not get something you'll probably get a lot more enduring fun out of, like a r/c aircraft - you're obviously vagueley into aircraft to find this site.
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Well, I dont use them that much, and I'm not gonna buy anymore. Although I was into building electronics. The only interesting thing I built was a Blu-Ray laser. I'm over electronics now but it was quite satisfying to build.
And for your info, there is some science in it. I bet you dont know anything about frequency doubling crystals to change wavelength's (don't ask me to explain it). Or maybe even coherent light. But you might becuase you could be a pilot, and most pilots know about science and particualy physics. (As I'v been told)
And for your info, there is some science in it. I bet you dont know anything about frequency doubling crystals to change wavelength's (don't ask me to explain it). Or maybe even coherent light. But you might becuase you could be a pilot, and most pilots know about science and particualy physics. (As I'v been told)
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- I have an RC aircraft -
Z I N G
- I have an RC aircraft -
Z I N G
I'm not gonna defend lasers anymore, destroy them all. Unless they are in the hands of professionals. And don't call me a hypocrite...
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So it could be said you've ' seen the light ' !!!
A fair response overall, and I bet the r/c aircraft gives more lasting fun.
Who knows, what with whatever you learn from that, if followed up, and interest in electronics, it could lead into an aviation career, either ground or air crew...
You're at the age when you can decide if that's what you want to do, though I imagine opportunities might be even more limited where you are.
In which case I wish you the best of luck - meanwhile if practicable please spread the gospel among other l@ser users. DZ
A fair response overall, and I bet the r/c aircraft gives more lasting fun.
Who knows, what with whatever you learn from that, if followed up, and interest in electronics, it could lead into an aviation career, either ground or air crew...
You're at the age when you can decide if that's what you want to do, though I imagine opportunities might be even more limited where you are.
In which case I wish you the best of luck - meanwhile if practicable please spread the gospel among other l@ser users. DZ
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Be careful on approching Beirut on RWY 16 or 17 final, there are several mother f....ers pointintig with green lasers to aircarft, I had 2 of them on approaches last week at night very disturbing.
I reported it to tower and ground crews, you want to know the answer? You are lucky they didnīt shoot you with a missile!!!!
You know who is going back to Beirut? not me...
I reported it to tower and ground crews, you want to know the answer? You are lucky they didnīt shoot you with a missile!!!!
You know who is going back to Beirut? not me...
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Approaching SMO VOR (Santa Monica) on a SFO-LAX leg on Xmas eve 2005, we were illuminated by a green laser at between 10000 and 7000 feet from the Brentwood/UCLA area. I considered reporting it, but the FO had a flight to catch to Charlotte and home, and was adamant he didn't want anything to delay him getting home by Christmas morning. Oh well, what the hell.
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I tell people not to use them irresponsibly, most importantly involving aircraft in my oppinion. I tell them why it is so dangerous. At a Laza forum I am a member of, most users use them resposibly as they are important to them. However, some come along that don't seem to get it, they only want to annoy people. These people do not last long and are banned. Although a ban isn't much, it gets rid of them and keeps them away from all that info...
...They're obviously not smart enough to find it elsewhere
I tell people not to use them irresponsibly, most importantly involving aircraft in my oppinion. I tell them why it is so dangerous. At a Laza forum I am a member of, most users use them resposibly as they are important to them. However, some come along that don't seem to get it, they only want to annoy people. These people do not last long and are banned. Although a ban isn't much, it gets rid of them and keeps them away from all that info...
...They're obviously not smart enough to find it elsewhere
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I have been the 'victim' of these l@ser beams being pointed at my aircraft. For the previous two summers in a row, flying the approach into the greek island of Zakinthos at night some moron has shone a green l@ser beam right into the flight deck of the aircraft.
I reported it to ATC on every occasion and they mumbled that they would pass it to the authorities. When I spoke to the english dispatcher down there he said it was a re-occuring problem and reports were being filed every week!!! He said it was normally from a local night club where boozed up brits think it's a funny game to shine these l@sers at aircraft on the approach!
When I asked him why the police had not clamped down on this, particularly as they had a good idea of the source of the problem, he said they found it difficult to pin point the exact culprit and catching them at the right time, during the act so to speak!
Why is this place not closed down or people searched before entry? It might be a bit extreme but people's lives are at stake here. In my opinion they need to take a much harder line on this.
What moron's, hope they fall off a cliff whilst pi**ed up!
I reported it to ATC on every occasion and they mumbled that they would pass it to the authorities. When I spoke to the english dispatcher down there he said it was a re-occuring problem and reports were being filed every week!!! He said it was normally from a local night club where boozed up brits think it's a funny game to shine these l@sers at aircraft on the approach!
When I asked him why the police had not clamped down on this, particularly as they had a good idea of the source of the problem, he said they found it difficult to pin point the exact culprit and catching them at the right time, during the act so to speak!
Why is this place not closed down or people searched before entry? It might be a bit extreme but people's lives are at stake here. In my opinion they need to take a much harder line on this.
What moron's, hope they fall off a cliff whilst pi**ed up!
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Bus Junkie,
How can the courts dish out sentences like that - it's effectively multiple attemped murder!
Can the judiciary not see that this brings the whole system into disrepute?
WP
How can the courts dish out sentences like that - it's effectively multiple attemped murder!
Can the judiciary not see that this brings the whole system into disrepute?
WP