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Old 18th Sep 2016, 22:36
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How do you charge 5 people in 2 cars over 1 laser pen?
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How do you charge 5 people in 2 cars over 1 l@ser pen?
In UK law it's called joint enterprise – other terms in other jurisdictions. A group of people encouraging each other to commit a crime can all be held responsible, not just the one who happens to be holding a weapon at the time they were arrested,
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Let's hope the Sheriff gets out of bed on the wrong side, on the day they are being sentenced.
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No such thing as "UK Law."
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No such thing as "UK Law."
That's true, of course; poor phrasing, sorry. Try again:
In the various legal systems in the UK it's called joint enterprise ...
Will that do?
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 10:29
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Not really, given that the courts have now determined that the Joint Enterprise law has been widely misinterpreted (with a shed-load of probable wrongful convictions) and doesn't actually say what you are suggesting it says.
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I was on a Vueling flight into EDI last night that was targeted from somewhere near Dalkeith. Unfortunately my phone was out of juice or I would have got a photo and tried to confirm the location.
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Spate of attacks here in NZ in the last few days

From the NZ Herald, Friday September 30th 2016


A l@ser has been shone into the cockpits of several international flights approaching Auckland Airport this morning.


It comes just hours after a helicopter pilot complained a l@ser had also targeted it in the same area.


Police said a number of flight crews complained to police about a blinding l@ser being directed at the cockpits around 5.15am.


The l@ser appeared to come from the South Auckland suburb of Weymouth, on the southern edge of the Manukau Harbour.


A spokesman said police immediately sent patrols to the area but could not find anyone.


An Airways NZ spokeswoman said a helicopter pilot reported a l@ser at 9.42pm in the Weymouth area.


Last night two Air New Zealand pilots suffered headaches and had their vision temporarily obscured after a powerful green l@ser was pointed into the cockpit as they flew into into Wellington Airport about 8.10pm.


The Air New Zealand plane was flying from Hamilton and landed safely. It was targeted at about 3200m.The l@ser light was believed to have originated from the Trentham area, south of Upper Hutt, near the motorway.


Police patrolled the area but could not find anyone.
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Nice to see some good news on this front. Someone tried to do this to a news helicopter that stuck around long enough to bust them.

Morons Shine Laser at News Helicopter, Get Exactly What's Coming to Them
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I'd like to see more countries take the stance of Australia and ban the import/public sale of these devices; who needs a laser pen anyway? By all means have a small LED torchlight on a pen for those occasions when you can't find your house keys in the dark, but a laser light - no way !
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I agree Scott...life would go on and they would go unnoticed.
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This from Kiwi Land. 10 weeks is nothing to be sniffed at, although I am sure many would want to see more. Laser light points to jail for Christchurch man Tane Hemopo | Stuff.co.nz

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Old 7th Dec 2016, 12:19
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The Laser Event Recorder APP

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/putting-an-end-to-laser-attacks-on-planes
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It is an increasing problem. I've been 'hit' three times in the last year, and once was on a really nasty approach with other s**t going on and could have been very unpleasant indeed. One has to question why these things are so readily available, whereas other potentially lethal weapons are not.

IMHO it is only a matter of time before the inevitable happens. Pray God it doesn't, but seriously something needs to be done. Six months is a joke frankly. It is a wilful act that amounts to intent to murder a substantial number of people.
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And it's not just aircraft that are being targetted

Forget aircraft – now cretins are laser-blinding ferry boat crewmen
Gadget-grasping goon gets $9,500 fine and jail time
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Finally, a bit of progress in the UK it would seem:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...er-punishments
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But the judges will just give them community service no doubt.
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Old 5th Feb 2017, 16:19
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Here's what the pilot sees:Government plans laser pen clampdown - BBC News
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Old 5th Feb 2017, 18:52
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From the Guardian article:

Convictions under the current laws are very rare: 44 people were found guilty in 2013 and 2014, when 2,844 incidents were reported, according to the DfT.
I can't help wondering how many 'incidents' each of those people were responsible for... I would expect dozens at least, but wouldn't be at all surprised if some individuals had racked up three figures all by themselves!
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The other night, as there was very little else on the box, I happened to have settled to watch one of these nothing to declare programs. It was about the goings on at Cork airport. A young feller had been pulled up and nothing, except a laser torch had been found.
After checking with his superior that the item was not on the prohibited list, the customs officer gave it back to him. As the passenger was leaving he told the customs officer that where he lived there were not many aeroplanes anyway. Now what does that mean I wondered. The only answer I could come up with is that, the chap must have known that`s what the thing is used for in the main by morons and that he would not have the convenience to put it into it`s intended purpose. Some shrink ought to do one of these word association tests with the word "laser". I expect the answer would be " aircraft".
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