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411A 4th April 2003 05:58

From the outside looking in...ever so slightly
 
Performed many sub-charters for MON from MAN several years ago. They always requested that the crew report to the MON office for a preflight briefing.
VERY professionally done...superb from what I could see.
Cabin crew likewise, always two on board for these flights ( in addition to the normal provided complement)....seemed to me a fine operation.
From what I noticed....first class all the way.
An old line company...doing OK.

Knobbies 4th April 2003 15:46

411A - Many thanks for your kind comments.

My best wishes to ALL airlines/staff/passengers in these difficult times.

From a "Spotty M" insider...

millerscourt 4th April 2003 16:05

411A Your comments re Monarch whilst quite correct amaze me.

Are you going soft in the head due to your obvious old age or is there hope for us all that you are a reformed character??.

411A 4th April 2003 22:10

Odd comments...?
 
millerscourt,
Quite the opposite. Just noticed that MON seems to make the job of the "contracted crew" more pleasant. Superb briefing, instead of just tossing the papers at you.
They seem to do it right.

Knobbies 5th April 2003 07:38

Thanks again 411A, - we do do it right at spotty M.

Praise where praise is due!

beamer 5th April 2003 13:23

I fly for a major competitor IT charter airline but have flown on more than one occasion with Monarch. I have always been
impressed by their operation and whilst they may appear to have
a rather 'stuffy'image they seem to treat their customers very well
indeed. Unlike some other airlines Monarch do not seem to want
to forget that the passenger should come first thus retaining customer loyalty and not forever chasing more cost-cutting measures which reduce the level of service.

WOK 6th April 2003 06:58

Firstly, on topic, I know people who work for Monarch and I endorse all the good things said before on this thread - long may it continue.

Secondly, back OFF topic, for the benefit of LAF and Sir Kit Braker -the reason Concorde callsigns are prefixed "Speedbird Concorde xxxx" is because it's SOPs to do so; as described in our FM and, presumably, in the relevant MATS. The reasons are historical and too boring to detail here, but there you have it.

Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but I've just had my fill of explaining why we use that callsign.

As for "THE............" Well, I agree with all that has been said before.

SOPS 6th April 2003 10:01

:O Thanks WOK, long live Sops. What ever they may say, in any company. People should remember that Sops are written for a Company operation, and may not suit anyone else. But as long as they are safe, who cares??. If you are required to call it "Concorde sitting in foul Milk 371", because its a Sop, well who cares ? I dont. Thats what I work towards. Regards SOPS

Itswindyout 6th April 2003 18:18

MON at GIB
 
Monarch are the best UK operator by far.....End of discussion.

What did happen in GIB with the nose wheel. I was on the flight taking Mr Boeing to check it out.
On a later flight I was fortunate to discuss with Fleet Captain the general situation of operations in Monarch, and was very impressed with the entire set up.
I have also been involved in the cabin crew training, in a small capacity, and very impressed with the overall sense of satisfaction internally.

Long may they reign.

PS...... Can I book LTN-AGP on 12th April return 16th and my normal seat.....
PPS....Plus the breakfast, free newspaper, drinks, and smiles all round....
PPS...The lounge is one of the best in Europe....
PPPS.....I am not rated on any types they operate, and not looking for a job....honest.....

brakedwell 6th April 2003 19:38

Who owns Monarch? Do they ever come out of the shadows? Air Europe was highly thought of when they went belly up. Just a few thoughts after a long run of flattering postings.

EGGW 6th April 2003 23:55

Private company, the Italian connection, horses head an all that..... http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/smokin.gif

Owned by Private shareholders in all seriousness.

EGGW

desert_knight 7th April 2003 04:17

I worked for them for six years '89 to '95 on their flight simulator, never heard of them before I joined! As mentioned before, they work quietly and effectively to give a great product and have been doing so for a LONG time. To compare them to the short lived likes of Air 2000 does them a dis service. I thoroughly enjoyed my time there, they were a great company to work for - a real family atmosphere.

Long may they continue!

Hot 'n' High 7th April 2003 04:56

How good it is to see such a positive response regarding Monarch! In this day and age it good to see there are companies who seem to engender such support. My contact, a few years ago, in the field of Engineering, bears this out.

Off topic, from my understanding, the Concorde ref in the callsign is used to let ATC know they have a "rocket" they can play with in terms of separation etc - but one that has its' own operational characteristics which need to be respected as any delta a/c would have. But I’m sure Concorde jocks are far better placed to advise us Proles! Just great to see them flying again!

H 'n' H ;)

Spartacan 7th April 2003 15:24

I had some dealings with the Spotty M training department a few years ago. Thoroughly impressed by all of them. Professional gentlemen to the last. I was offered a job once - only a six month contract alas - and wish I had had a career with them.

Pilots who have left Monarch always seem to talk highly of them too. How many airlines can claim that?

EPRman 7th April 2003 17:08

desert_knight

For your information Air 2000 are entering their sixteenth year of operation and still going strong. Hardly short lived!

longarm 7th April 2003 19:22

EPRMan

Half as long as the spotty M

Its all relative !

NAV GREEN 9th April 2003 02:23

Monarch is not and never will be a charity, they fly to make a profit. The company is extremely asset rich and does not suffer from cash flow problems unlike the majority of our competitors. I also suspect this is another journalistic load of rubbish, if not then I would suggest the future of our not so lean competitors is very bleak. MON is one of aviations silent survivors of which I have had the pleasure of working for the last 18 years so I do know what Iam talking about.

diamondtart 9th April 2003 06:12

Maybe it depends on whereabouts in the country you come from!

if you are a southerner then it would be MONAAAARCH.

if your a northerner then it would be MONERK

dont you think???

B767300ER 9th April 2003 08:55

If you're a Yank, it would be MON-ARK !

crewrest 10th April 2003 20:03

I can't believe this love-in is still on the front forum, shouldn't it be in Airlines and Routes by now?


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