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yasserfat 2nd March 2002 12:24

BA recruitment to recommence soon.
 
Apparently (i.e. rumour)and on good authority, the mighty BA still need pilots, and will re-start selection programmes later this summer. Those in the pool have started to be summoned, but not always on the type they asked for...A319 seems to be favourite at the moment.

Still, heartening news.

flying doc 2nd March 2002 13:53

Can anyone in the pool confirm this rumour..?

Captain Numpty 2nd March 2002 14:04

Precisely......I am not knocking what is being said here........However, it's interesting to note that no-one has seemingly mentioned this before........

Who knows, may be the "Pool" are all on a secret mission and can't talk about it LOL!!!

Good news if it is true though.....best of luck to all those concerned

C.N.

B clam 2nd March 2002 15:16

There are only 400 Flt ops positions to go with reference to the announced job losses so far (13200). This 'man-power reduction' is easily covered by initiatives such as part-time, unpaid leave et al. Coupled with the fact that there are something between 600-900 retirements over the next few years it doesn't need a rocket scientist to see that BA will need to recruit.

In addition, the 744 will 'gagging' for pilots soon as the Company are keeping some a/c that they thought would go. Whether DEP or from within - pilots required!

Amazon man 2nd March 2002 15:41

I doubt very much that there will be any external recruitment for BA at the present time any new entrants are more likely to go to CitiExpress.

CitiExpress Pilots, Mainline Pilots and BALPA still have lots of questions to resolve.

Peter Skellan 2nd March 2002 16:17

Oh goody - where do we all apply. After all I am sure we are all dying to work for Mr Eddington. Most pilots yearn to fly for an airline run by the Cabin Crew in cohorts with the Beancounters. YES, I say, I would relish sitting in the RHS of a Birdseed Whale contemplating 8 years to command and earning less than the CSD and Pursar comfortably chatting away behind me in First. Where they instruct me I am not allowed to sit.

I note with barely dampened enthusiasm that BA have withdrawn final salary pensions for new DEP's and that several unions in my new company are contemplating strike action. Meanwhile the sheer ecstacy that is the M25, LHR parking and Bus catching makes me virtually all of a quiver.

I just know that it will all be so worth it as I touch down in all those 'choice' destinations that my seniority will consign me to for a decade or so. I do think 3rd World countries offer such a rich cultural perspective on life and you hardly ever get shot at or anything.



It will certainly tax even the likes of Charles Satchi to sell a package that entails world leading appalling industrial relations, rock bottom morale, lower starting pay, long time to command and a no longer special pension.

PS <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

Suggs 2nd March 2002 17:20

Peter Skellan

Slightly bitter mate, don't worry lots have people have got a BA rejection letter.

Flap 80 2nd March 2002 17:26

At least BA give you the chance after a 4 year freeze to change from s/haul to l/haul or vv.Join VS,FR,GO or EZY and you are stuck in a groove.Do you want to fly one type until 55 or 60???.

maxalt 2nd March 2002 18:18

There are current threads on this BB speculating on the possible demise of BA. Perhaps slightly exaggerated, but this is a company with BIG problems.. .Wouldn't be my idea of a good move. . .But then I don't need a job.

mainfrog2 2nd March 2002 18:32

If none of you like the idea don't apply (if it's true).

. .Missing you already.

thewwIIace 2nd March 2002 19:53

i just flew with management pilot who says no recruitment this year after a training meeting last week so take that as you will

Super Stall 2nd March 2002 20:04

PETER SKELLAN, whenever somebody mentions the possibilty of working for BA you pipe up telling the world why they should'nt.

I really hope you are as good as your word, pls dont appply, EVER !!

Can't you get it into your head that other people's ambitions may be different to yours. They may just want to see a bit more of the world than you, and get the opportunity to fly some very nice kit in the bargain. <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

jetgirl 2nd March 2002 20:27

Am in the pool and no sign of any movement yet......I doubt they will take any unrated pilots for the time being.

Captain Airclues 2nd March 2002 20:57

The 'pool' refered to by Yasserfat is the group of pilots who had signed contracts prior to 9/11, but had not been assigned to a course. These pilots have been on full basic pay, and are now being offered courses, mainly on the B737 and A319/320 at LHR. Unlike some other airlines, BA allowed the TEP's to continue their training, and these pilots will have to be found places.. .There will be considerable movement in the next few years. Rather than ground some of the 744s as originally planned we will now be operating 56 in 2002 and all 57 in 2003. There are 200+ retirements for the next few years, mainly from the longhaul fleets.. .Loads are picking up in a big way, and the yields are also recovering. Most JFK flights are full in F and J. I don't think that it will be long before BA needs to start recruiting again. I think that aviation has turned the corner, which is good news for everyone, especially the wannabes.

Airclues

FLEX42 2nd March 2002 21:09

Peter Skellan :- I enjoyed your post, full of ironic humour and more than a dash of truth I'd say.

Maxalt :- Concur with your view, think it's a good time to be retiring from BA right now.

ps. Suggs, before you accuse me of having a rejection letter, I haven't. At the age I left the military I wasn't going to see a L/H command so there was no point in applying. As SS says, different people have different ambitions and I was lucky to fly some good kit all over the world. It probably IS fair to say that BA is not the great company it once was and has difficult times ahead if it is to survive........I hope it does.

Recover 2nd March 2002 21:50

Not that it would suprise me (mushrooms and all that), but if BA are starting to do this, then it is the first that the recruiters have heard about it <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

B clam 2nd March 2002 21:56

It seems to me that most of the negative posts about BA come from those who don't work for the Company.

BA has created a lot of its own problems and cannot blame the economy/09/11 for its misfortunes but why are these people hoping that the Company fails - what purpose will this serve?

There needs to be an airline that pilots aspire to and BA is in the best position to provide this. It has started on the right track to reform, albeit reactively and still needs to tackle working practices. You can be sure that the management will be looking at these areas when they have enough cash/confidence to take on the unions.

I can only take as envy this 'schaden fraude' aginst BA. I work for the Company but have been on the 'other side' working for charter/RAF. I am suitably placed to know that we work just as hard as our colleagues in other airlines (90% of us do anyway!) and we get just as frustrated at the Company's inefficiencies.

Please try and cut out the petty and worthless back stabbing.

dallas dude 3rd March 2002 07:48

I got three "No Thank You" letters from BA myself.. .. .Remember being very disappointed each time, especially when they were running ads in Flight that basically said "If you're thinking of learning to fly"!. .. .Couldn't face a fourth so went to work for AA.. .. .Glad I did. Funny how things work out.. .. .Good luck to those that did make it.. .. .Cheers,

NigelOnDraft 3rd March 2002 16:01

PS. .. .&lt;&lt;I note with barely dampened enthusiasm that BA have withdrawn final salary pensions for new DEP's &gt;&gt;. .Could you provide a reference or similar to back this up? Or is it just speculation...?. .. .NoD

orcahouse 3rd March 2002 17:07

To all the people who are foretelling doom and gloom. Where were they 12 months ago when, despite its many and continuing handicaps, BA had started to turn the corner and was posting a nice little operating profit?


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