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Rollingthunder 1st August 2012 02:46

UA 1475
 
UA 1475 at Denver (B737) somewhat damaged by unidentified bird.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...87_634x436.jpg

Basil 1st August 2012 08:53


damaged by unidentified bird
Dolly Parton?

Up up and away 1st August 2012 09:33

I'm sure there would have been a similar-sized hole on the other side of the nose had it been Dolly :O

Jet Jockey A4 1st August 2012 11:22

Up up and away said...

"I'm sure there would have been a similar-sized hole on the other side of the nose had it been Dolly" :O


Why? Dolly's massive booby absorbers would have cushioned the shock!:p

Huck 1st August 2012 11:53

Rumor was she passed out and had to be carried off by four men. Two abreast.....

Smoketrails 1st August 2012 12:42

..more like Rosanne Barr hit it..

ESSP Flyer 1st August 2012 16:42

Unless it was hit by a Great Tit (Parus major) of course......

DC-ATE 1st August 2012 16:52

OK.....all good replies, but I wonder just what kind of BIRD it was ?!?!

Smilin_Ed 1st August 2012 16:57

Small Bird, Big Hole
 
Even a small bird can make a big hole. I once hit a seagull which nearly destroyed the entire nose cone/radome on a P-3.

lomapaseo 1st August 2012 22:16

The dent varries with both object size and speed .

i.e. for the same size bird the frontal area of the dent decreases with increasing speed while the depth of the dent increases with speed. Some similar complicating effects with engine fan blades. It's the combination of dent depth and area for a given speed that relates back to the bird size

For nose domes/cones the hole size is a little more complicated since it depends at what point in the impact and dent sequence the metal begins to tear. Of course if its a flexible non-metalic like fiberglas etc. there may be no visible hole, just a crack which opens during the denting and lets the whole bird inside before springing back closed again.

Simlar effects with ice/hail strikes on aircraft. knowing one or two parameters you can usually work out the others.

With a hard object like a bullet or missle fragment a similar relationship can be worked out at a macro level (TW800 example)

DaveReidUK 2nd August 2012 06:22


With a hard object like a bullet or missile fragment a similar relationship can be worked out at a macro level (TW800 example).
You were doing OK with your explanation up to that point.

MarkerInbound 2nd August 2012 06:40

Some of the larger airports have full time wildlife control officers. They've been known to take DNA from the blood smear to find the type of bird.

2EggOmelette 2nd August 2012 06:47

Saw the damage to the front end of an A4k after it collided with a duck at 250kts, the size of the entry 'hole' was rather similar, so perhaps a 1 - 1.5kg feathered missile? Gave the poor old pilot a bit of a start too.

green granite 2nd August 2012 06:56

Poor bird.

A A Gruntpuddock 2nd August 2012 10:22

Sure it was a bird?

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/im...T3zqyrvA2T1ZFZ

ATPMBA 2nd August 2012 10:51

Luckily it didn't hit the windshield.

flyingchanges 2nd August 2012 11:45

Actually, it probably would have been better if it did hit the windshield. The forward bulkhead is very thin and there are numerous accounts of birds penetrating to the cockpit.


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