Aer Arran Incident
 

Aer Arran atr72 has just mangaed to have an arguement with an FEP at Manchester, no one injured.

What is an FEP?

Take your pick ...
FEP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
:)
Might be Frisbee Emulating Projectile I suppose?

Or maybe Fixed Electrical Power?

This happened just after we got on stand further into the cul-de-sac. Lots of flashing lights. Apparently the aircraft was seen stuttering forwards (according to fellow FD watching from the gallery) and No.2 Prop and engine had the argument with what looked like the parking mirror.

Feel very sorry for the FD expecially. Must have been quite scary not being able to stop properly! Hope they are well.

Lads come on, get the name right.

AER ARANN.

CP.

If you look at the pictures on the other thread, it is pretty obvious that they had a massive loss of hydraulic fluid in the last few metres of their parking manouver. Hardly a crew co-ordination issue, and hardly a failure to check the brakes either. More a case of an unexpected failure at the worst possible time and with virtually no time to do anything about it. So perhaps a little less of the crew bagging might be in order...??? :rolleyes:

http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...anchester.html

Oh is it????? I don't know whether they had hydraulic loss or not, but the Fire Service did hose the stand down as a precaution......

Perhaps we might save the guesswork for when you know something huh?

Check A/C registration letters. (EI vs G in this report)
 

http://redirectingat.com/?id=42X4874...%252008-94.pdf

Perhaps the submitter BRAL means to point at a suspected similarity between two unrelated incidents?

Look at the photos. The trail fluid ends (and is largest) under the wheel. Now what sort of fluid do you use in an undercarriage? Could it be... skydrol? hmmm.... I wonder... :rolleyes:

Good job this happened on the ground and not in flight or are the control surface hydraulics on an ATR on a completely separate system?

Oh Noes!
 

The control surface hydraulics actually FELL OFF this aircraft....

.... on the drawing board.

Flaps and spoilers are on the blue system, alond with nosewheel steering, parking/emergency brake, prop brake. Green system handles gear ops and normal braking! It was by the way a complete hydraulics failure ( as seen by the big puddle under the a/c) when on stand. Nothin the crew could do at this point.

Fired
 

There go to more guys to the Dole, as it is policy with AA to fire guys as soon as they can. LOL

Boeing

And why would Aer Arann fire the crew if it was an hydraulic failure over which they had no control?

I still want to know what an FEP is! On the Wikipedia url above I see it could mean a 'front end processor' is that a pilot perchance?

MANROW the suggestion given by Spitoon earlier is correct, at least in the context of MAN.

The F.E.P. is indeed Fixed Electrical Power.

:ok:

Does the ATR have no backup for that? Every Cessna I flew has a nitrogen bottle and an emer brake lever that acts as a backup for hydraulic wheel brake failure....

Genuine question - probably the time to react to the hydr failure would have been to short anyhow even if a backup is fitted.

There is an emergency accumulator, will give you 6 applications...which I believe it did....after that if ALL the fluid is gone there is nothing left! this was not a pump failure it was loss of fluid!

Sorry stupid me. The nitrogen would not have helped.

Note to self:

think before posting.