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B777Heavy 2nd July 2007 16:59

I read a couple of days ago again in one of the local Kenyan Dailies that the airline & pilots have been exhonarated as far as currency,cerification, maintenance and etc .....

Let me see if i can find a link and I will post it

Frangible 2nd July 2007 17:43

Canadians never release anything from CVRs, not even selective transcripts, because of their famed privacy laws. The Kenyans or Cameroonians would be able to if they wanted to.

B777Heavy 2nd July 2007 20:45

Sorry guys.....cant find the link

ChristiaanJ 2nd July 2007 21:26

B777Heavy,

I read a couple of days ago again in one of the local Kenyan Dailies that the airline & pilots have been exonarated as far as currency,certification, maintenance and etc .....
Another local "official" making "statements" well before there are any significant results from the inquiry.
Can't really blame him.... he's trying to reassure the punters.

atakacs 2nd July 2007 22:10


Canadians never release anything from CVRs, not even selective transcripts, because of their famed privacy laws. The Kenyans or Cameroonians would be able to if they wanted to.
SR111 transcripts were available well before the end of the investigation...

Frangible 3rd July 2007 14:51

Those were ATC transcripts. Nothing from the CVR at all. Just a small amount of reported speech.

wes_wall 4th July 2007 16:27

The only info on the SR111 CVR recordings was the very early leak (October '98) by ABC News. A reporter obtained a CVR transcript from who knows who and the network revealed the detailed contents. Obviously, it generated quite a stir with the Canadians, and the Network did not dwell on the topic again.

wes_wall 11th August 2007 23:41

Bump - has there been any addition information been released? Thanks.

threemiles 21st August 2007 11:45

another bump
very strange - a huge fleet of B737-800s out there and no news, no prevention, no lessons learnt (yet)?

Swiss Cheese 13th September 2007 10:22

Boeing non-announcement
 
Boeing did make a non-announcement about 7 weeks ago to operators (as did the Cameroonians to the world in their prelim report) that the DFDR revealed no "mechanical defect". Deafening silence on any other defect - whether electrical, hydraulic or indeed otherwise. As to the spoiler AD issue, the consensus seems to be that the DFDR would not have revealed a configuration anomaly. Perhaps their lawyers are using weasel words.....?:hmm:

bushbolox 13th September 2007 15:03

Rainboe,
Dont hold your breath. With the track record of the authorities involved and the aircraft vendors global interests at stake I doubt you will find anything out....that is true.
Just like the abijan airbus. pages of technical theory and not one mention of the training record of either pilot vis a vis poor ability, nepotism or similar disaster avoided previously .
Been there seen the film , ate the pie met the rabbits

threemiles 7th September 2008 07:38

http://en.afrik.com/article12400.html

frogone 7th September 2008 09:49

It's dated Tuesday 11 December 2007

IR

glad rag 7th September 2008 10:18

Indeed Rainboe, it gratifying that the investigation has been carried out in such a thorough and transparent manner.

bushbolox 7th September 2008 10:26

The many KQ crew i have chatted to down route are already aware of the cause. Goback to the early days of this thread and it has already been touched upon. As rainboe says it will hit between the eyes.
Accidents are based on probability. Much is done to mitigate the odds.
Past reputaions are based on past miitgation. Present reputations are based on current mitgation. Hence this thread.

punkalouver 13th September 2008 11:23

According to my source at Kenya Airways, a perfectly good plane clear of weather on a dark night flown like the Flash Airlines 737 in Egypt.

Diamond Bob 22nd April 2010 20:50

Report on Kenya Airlines Crash to be Finalized. Or so says this article --


Business Daily: - Company Industry|Report on Kenya Airways plane crash finalised

atakacs 22nd April 2010 22:14

Is it public ?!

Airbubba 28th April 2010 03:10


April 27, 2010

Pilot Error Blamed for 2007 Crash That Killed 114

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 9:51 p.m. ET

NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) -- A newly released investigative report into the 2007 crash of a Kenya Airways flight in Cameroon that killed all 114 people on board blames pilot error.

The report -- which took almost three years to be released -- says the Boeing 737-800 slowly banked right after a midnight departure on May 5, 2007, and that when the pilot finally noticed he aggravated the problem by banking even farther to the right. The report says the captain had a case of ''spatial disorientation.''

The airplane went into a spiral dive and crashed less than two minutes after takeoff. The plane had been delayed by a thunderstorm but the report says the weather was not likely a cause of the accident.

All 108 passengers and six crew died.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010...oon-Crash.html

kotakota 28th April 2010 03:39

Did he 'think' he had engaged autopilot , but did not check CMD annunciation because of preoccupation with weather radar ?


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