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anyone hear anything about an incident at biggin today ?

No.

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Subject: Aircraft accident disrupts show - Ananova Alerting


The 39th Biggin Hill Air Show was disrupted when a jet crash-landed.

Former RAF pilot Clive Rustin escaped injury when the 1960s Venom plane got
into difficulty after its undercarriage developed a fault.

Cranes eventually moved the plane from the runway but the accident meant
the timetable of the show had to be altered.

Nick Smith, spokesman for the show, said it was unclear what had happened
to the plane: "Either the undercarriage failed to come down or it collapsed
underneath it as it came into land."

Spoonbill

If you have nothing to say, say nothing.

Another bad day, glad there were no injuries

Second incident at Biggin: Towards the finish of the display the remaining vampire and sea vixon went up to display and the vampire appears to have crashed to the northwest of the field for reasons unknown. Unsubstantiated rumours are that it may have hit houses.

BBC teletext report 2 dead after the second incident.

BBC News say that the London Ambulance Service have confirmed 2 crew died in the accident.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/...00/1366524.stm

Yet another sad day. My condolences.

I live about 10 miles north of Biggin and had tuned into Biggin Hill on my scanner (reception was very good). I heard the Vampire crew a few times in the circuit (delightful engine sound), all was well. I switched of the scanner briefly (no more than 3 mins) - thats the interval the unfortunate accident took place. Very sad news indeed.

JB 007,

Fefuxake are you real or what? A Vampire was displaying with the Sea Vixen and the Vampire crashed. It would have been 18:00 or thereabouts. Jeez if you were airside you must surely have seen it !!

Smaug.

I was watching the airshow from a field at the eastern end of the runway. The vampire was approaching the runway to follow the Vixen and during this manoeuvre flight became unstable and the aircraft impacted the ground approx 200 feet away from me in the same field.

The whole experience was sickening as it was so close I felt the impact in the ground and smelled the kerosene. Even more horrible is to learn on pprune that 2 crew were on board. Let's have our thoughts with their families and their unimaginable grief right now.

Smaug..calm down..

Everyone has my sincere apologies if they thought I was been in anyway disrepectful to all those concered with the Vampire accident.

I most definatly was not..

And yes..I was completely un-aware of any serious accident involved at Biggin Hill yesterday only the incident regarding a gear-up landing...I'd finished work and left BIG well before 1800.

My above post, as fence mentioned and for the sake of smaug's blood-pressure, has been deleted.

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[This message has been edited by JB007 (edited 03 June 2001).]

FROM ONE WHO HAS WALKED AWAY FROM A JET CRASH (JP LAST YEAR,HOLLAND) IT MADE ME THINK JUST WHAT WE TAKE ON WHEN WE STRAP INTO ONE OF THESE 'OLD LADIES'ALTHOUGH I'M BACK IN THE SADDLE AND HAVE JUST 'REVALIDATED' MY 'DA'.I CONTINIOUSLY CHECK AND RE-CHECK ALL POINTS OF MY A/C BEFORE I GO UP. YESTERDAY WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THIS AS I WAS DUE TO FLY LATE P.M BUT SOMETHING DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT SO WE RE-CHEKD THE A/C THOROUGHLY.AND BINGO! MAIN OLEO LEG ON PORT SIDE WEEPING BRAKE FLUID.UNDER PRESSURE TEST IT BLEW!
OBVIOUSLY MY GUARDIAN ANGEL WAS AROUND.
MY THOUGHTS GO TO THOSE WHO WEEP AND WITH THOSE WHO 'HAVE TOUCHD THE FACE OF GOD'

Sympathies and condolences.

I wonder why there were 2 POB. Passenger carrying is banned on display flights and the rule is strictly enforced.

If the accident occurred during a post display departure that would explain it, but it appears from the news to have happened during the display.

Ivchenko

2 POB possibly something to do with C of G limits. The old JP T.3 display always had two in for that very reason (something to do with wingtip tanks in that case I think - ok for normal flight, but needed for aeros)

JB007

Thanks for that, I figured you must have missed it.

Have sadly just heard the news on local radio that another aircraft has crashed at Biggin. A "WWII American fighter". No other details yet.

A truly sad weekend.

Further to your earlier posts guys, I've just seen this on the Teletext pages.

NEWS STORY 3/6/01

FIGHTER CRASHES AT AIRSHOW
A Second World War fighter has crashed into the ground and exploded in a ball of flame at the Biggin Hill Airshow -just 100 yards away from the crowd.

The crash is the second tragedy at the Kent show in two days after two men were killed when their De Havilland Vampire fell from the skies yesterday.

It was not known how many were on board today's plane or if they survived.

My condolences go to all those involved in both incidents.
I hope that some comfort can be gained from the fact that these people were, at the time, involved in a pastime that they held very close to their hearts.

www.teletext.co.uk/news/story.asp?intSubSectionID=1&intRegionID=19&intArticleNumber= 1&indent=1

Any further information....

Further reportage can be found here on the new incident;
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm...atestheadlines

My sympathy goes out to the relatives of all souls lost at this show.

Typical half assed reporting

They said the P-63 was a jet, useless bastards

MOTF (In tears as I post this)

A sad 2001 Biggin Hill Airshow and our deepest simpathies must go to the family and friends of those killed over the weekend.

It is with utter disbelief that I read these posts, not that I am naive enough to think it can never happen, but twice at one event?
As someone who has aspired and is still aspiring to join the ranks of display pilots I am extremely saddened to hear of these accidents. Even in the ten years that I have been flying I have lost count of the number of 'warbird' and display accidents and the good men we have lost.
CRX.

This must go down as one of the worst weekends in living memory, as far as air shows are concerned.

My deepest condolences to the families and friends of those involved.