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Turkish Airliner Down
Just heard on Radio 4 that a Turkish airliner has crashed, location type or casualties not known at this time
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Crashed near Diyarbakir in the Sout East of Turkey with 72 on board.
News still coming in |
REU-GENFAX1912GMT UPDATE 1-Turkish airliner crashes with over 70 on board (Adds details of crash, location) DIYARBAKIR, Turkey, Jan 8 (Reuters) – A Turkish Airlines passenger plane carrying more than 70 people crashed in southeast Turkey on Wednesday, officials and witnesses said. There were no immediate reports on the number of casualties. An Istanbul airport official said the plane had been flying from Istanbul to the southeastern city of Diyarbakir when it crashed on landing. “The plane crashed two miles from Diyarbakir airport during landing,” the official said. He could give no details of casualties or how many people were onboard. Anatolian news agency said it was carrying 72 people and five crew, though other media put the number of passengers at 71. “I saw many ambulances rushing towards the tarmac and a new wave of police have come in and they are trying to calm people down,” a taxi driver at the airport told Reuters. The cause of the crash was not immediately clear but witnesses said there was heavy fog at Diyarbakir airport. Diyarbakir airport is a wide expanse of land shared between military and civil air traffic. Civilian flights land more than a kilometre from the main terminal and passengers are carried to and from their flights by buses. “Police have emptied the terminal building but there are a lot of yelling and screaming people,” said Sahin Aykut, a taxi driver waiting at the rank outside the terminal. REUTERS |
Latest info from BBC, 72 on board the aircraft which crashed on landing
here's the link |
GENFAX19:37GMT TURKISH CNN TURK TV SAYS ALL BUT EIGHT OF OVER 70 FEARED DEAD IN PLANE CRASH |
Type reported as RJ-100:
By JAMES C. HELICKE Associated Press Writer ISTANBUL, Turkey (AP) — A Turkish Airlines flight with 76 people on board crashed Wednesday in heavy fog as it tried to land at an airport in southeastern Turkey, news reports said. There were reports of at least four survivors. The RJ-100 passenger aircraft, which was on its way from Istanbul, crashed in a military area near the Diyarbakir airport, and soldiers were helping to evacuate the injured, CNN-Turk television reported. There were 71 passengers and five crew aboard, the semiofficial Anatolia news agency reported. Four of the injured were evacuated to nearby Diyarbakir hospital, Anatolia reported. CNN-Turk television said the injured were in shock but had no life-threatening injuries. Doctors in the area were called to the city's main hospital to deal with the injured, Anatolia reported. It was not clear if there were additional injured people who were being evacuated to the hospital. The plane crashed as it landed in heavy fog, private NTV television reported |
another sad day for aviation....2 in a row today....
fyi....wx at station LTCC 081950Z 11002KT 0100 R34/0150D +FG VV001 03/02 Q1021 NOSIG= LTCC 081850Z 26002KT 4500 BR FEW040 SCT100 04/03 Q1021 NOSIG= LTCC 081750Z 00000KT 3500 R34/3500D BR FEW040 SCT100 05/03 Q1021 NOSI G= LTCC 081650Z 32003KT 5000 BR FEW040 SCT100 05/03 Q1021 NOSIG= LTCC 081550Z 28006KT 4500 BR SCT040 BKN100 06/05 Q1021 NOSIG= LTCC 081450Z 27005KT 3000 R34/3000D BR SCT040 BKN100 07/05 Q1021 NOSI |
:( Oh s@@t, here we go for another time today:( My thoughts are with all those concerned. Regards SOPS
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reuters now says only 5 survived?
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...plane_crash_18 |
2 miles short of runways and a little offset of the runway extended centreline reminds problems other than fog or an approach error. News says the plane was in a VOR approach. But this is such a great error that I normally do not expect from THY pilots. There should be another problem.
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Diyarbakir
Anyone familiar with Diyarbakir?
Some commentators on Turkish TV suggested lack of ILS equipment there. |
It's a sad day for aviation, my thoughts and prayers are with the families of the crew and passengers who have lost their lives.
ILS problems?? VOR approach, surely the weather precluded a VOR approach?? |
Thats 4 ARJ hull losses now, 3 of them TK (the other was the LX at ZRH which also crashed during an Non-Precision Approach in poor Wx).
Haven't counted the Mesaba one that rammed the Airbridge (at Memphis, I think), as not sure if that's a loss or not. Very sad. |
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CNN reported/speculated today that the aircraft suffered a mid air explosion and that the the black boxes had been recovered.
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Did they have the MDA or the Missed Approach Final Altitude in the Alt Sel?
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Capn Bloggs- I'm sure I've heard this before from you after Crossair lost one at zrh. However with 150m RVR there would have been an approach ban in force for non-precision approach. Unlike the stock 146, the RJ is Cat 111B autoland so would imagine that that is what they would be doing in those conditions.
With an ILS approach, the procedure on the RJ is to set go-around alt on the MCP with GS*. |
My question is, does anyone know if an ILS was available. On the BBC World Service last night, reporter and obviously "aviation expert" Mr Johnny Dymond was already telling the world, "There is no doubt that the thick fog caused the crash" (intimating that aircraft/pilots are unable to land in "thick fog"). This morning he was at it again, saying that "there was no Automatic Landing System available at the airport, although these systems only cost $1 million"
Is there an ILS available (I assume that is the Automatic Landing System that was reffered to)?:( |
My question is, does anyone know if an ILS was available. |
Spag, thanks for the info, the METARS also seem to indicate there was no "thick fog". Or was there fog that was not forcast?
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