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PaperTiger 9th Nov 2002 17:57

NIMBYs to blockade LHR ?
 
Blood pressure alert. :mad:

Not sure if this is the right forum, but the following appeared on Usenet

A report in the Uxbridge and Hayes Informer says that the anti third (sic) runway protesters are going to use vehicles to block all roads in and out of LHR on the 15th November.
The times of this protest are 7am - 10:30am and 4.30pm - 6:30pm. They will be attempting to cause the local roads to gridlock and as the traffic feeds off the M4 and M25 onto these roads no doubt the motorways will stop as well.

The person organising the blockade may be contacted at
[email protected]

bean_counter 9th Nov 2002 22:08

In my experience it'll be hard to spot the difference !:)

Hippy 10th Nov 2002 05:22

We're taking it pretty seriously at LTCC. Apparently their plan is to lock-up the roundabout under M4 J4 (Heathrow Spur) during morning & evening rush hours. Should comprehensively ****** the surounding area.

On a seperate note, I was intruiged to have a look at the protesters web site and realised that I now have concerns of my own over the proposed third runway - bit bloody short, isn't it?:eek:

Hippy.

Kefuddle_UK 10th Nov 2002 09:07

Not really NIMBYs as they have quite alot to contend with already. You gotta feel for people who have to live near Heathrow though. It must be bad enough as it is and we all should take their concerns seriously!

As if the SE needs another increase in traffic anyway. The Midlands is the only sensible choice but of course it would cost alot more to expand the infrastructure too.

On the topic. Farnbourogh is to be used for general scheduled business traffic. The distance between the runway and several thousand houses has got to seen to be believed! Who makes these decisions?

El Grifo 10th Nov 2002 09:40

Well Paper Tiger,
My guess is, that this ain't the reaction you were expecting.

I get the impression you were looking for the "hang them, shoot them, drag them off. The long haired, left wing, commie, lesbian, scum"

Then again maybe I am wrong :D :D

Don't fret though, leave the posting up long enough, it will come!

Jet II 10th Nov 2002 10:43

Get used to the extra congestion - its gonna get a lot worse when T5 and possibly an extra runway (if an extra runway then T6 and poss T7 will be along) get built.

There is also a proposal to widen the M25 around LHR - expect around 2 - 3 years of chaos.

Little Blue 10th Nov 2002 11:05

We have 'em protesting at EMA at the mo over possible expansion plans, but the old adage "expand or die" comes to mind.
Having lived 1 mile from LHR and 1/2 mile from EMA, I can honestly say that I haven't experienced any excessive noise pollution, but I was wearing industrial strength earplugs at night !
.
I hope that they all have viable alternative plans to add to the argument, the "long-haired, leftie,lesbian commie scum...etc etc etc..!"
;) ;) ;)

Hoverman 10th Nov 2002 11:26

You're ok El Grofi, as a resident of the Canaries you're not affected either way.

I'm less sympathetic to them than Kefuddle. If you buy/rent a house near LHR, you buy/rent much cheaper because it's near a busy international airport. If you get the plus of saving money, complaining about the minuses is a bit strong.

akerosid 10th Nov 2002 12:30

These organisations and indeed any organisation attempting to obstruct airport operations can represent a security concern; it only takes infiltration to turn a movement opposed to noise into something altogether more threatening.

It's a particular concern also that some of these groups are talking about more direct action. I trust that suitable steps are being taken to monitor their activities.

Kefuddle_UK 10th Nov 2002 12:46


If you buy/rent a house near LHR
True. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying anybody is in the right or wrong here. Just that I don't feel the normal NIMBY tag applies in this case. We need an expansion and it has to go somewhere. I imagine that the only reason LHR was chosen was because the infrastructure is already in place and the BAA know how to lobby parliment.

Oh and I don't think rent-a-mob is an appropriate response!

Gunship 10th Nov 2002 13:00

What is ?
 
Lo all,

Interesting ... what is NIMBY's ? I pressume some sort of protestors? What is their web site link ?

Is this story linked to the proposed airport in the midlands. I was on a visit to my aunt in Nuneaton and saw the "NO AIRPORT" posters in all the nearby villiages.

Just asking out of curiosity.

Many thanks,

Andy_R 10th Nov 2002 13:19

NIMBY

Not In My Back Yard

In other words persons that support advances in infrastructure, and want to have the use of it, but not if it is going to affect their quality of life or cost them anything!!!

Web-Footed Flyer 10th Nov 2002 13:23

Gunship !

NIMBY stands for: Not In My Back Yard !!!

Gunship 10th Nov 2002 13:28

Thanks for the replies !

What a great name .. what a great explanation for a serious problem. I seem to remember my aunt driving me past at least two beautiful villages that would be destroyed for the new airport ... what a shame that would be ?

Ray Ban 10th Nov 2002 13:35

Whilst everyone has their right to legitimate protest, it should never be allowed to pose a threat to security, safety and the usual business of running Heathrow. What really p!sses me off is the real hardcore NIMBY's who live in areas like Richmond and Putney and constantly spew bullsh!t about living with double barrelled shot guns constanly pointing at them! :mad:

redsnail 10th Nov 2002 13:36

There's also BANANA's

Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything. ;)

El Grifo 10th Nov 2002 16:28

Correct me if I am wrong, but I always thought that the REAL problem was the congestion of the airways and the inability of the ATC system to adequately control the situation.

Surely firing more winged wonders into the big blue is going to exacabate the situation.

What do I know, I live in the Canaries after all. Rumour has it we will have the Wireless next year, followed by the Cathode Ray Tube by 2015 :( ;) :(

Kefuddle_UK 10th Nov 2002 16:46

So El Grifo, just how much is a Steam Prop type rating in your part of the world then ;)

PaperTiger 10th Nov 2002 18:12

El Grifo I wasn't really looking for any response, although you may have correctly discerned my feelings from the tone ;)

Like you I am thousands of miles removed and thus unaffected, I was just surprised, having seen the Usenet post, that nobody had mentioned it here.

Whatever one's objections or concerns (the demolition of houses and entire villages is deplorable, I am less convinced re: noise), this kind of 'civil disobedience' is unacceptable IMO. And illegal, not that that matters nowadays.

El Grifo 10th Nov 2002 18:37

Well Paper, it seems to work for the french Sheepy burners and it certainly worked for the Anti Poll Tax Crew.

With "democracy" in the state its in these days, It does appear to be one of the last few ways of being heard.

Keffudle, run that word "prop" by me again.
We have a couple of colonials coming across the atlantic by steam packet, next month going by the names of Wullie and Orville Wright. They are rumoured to be bringing somthing that can be launched from a high hill and remain aloft for yea, minutes.

They sound dead interesting :confused:


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