Refusal to stamp Logbook
 

Dear all, have any of you faced a situation where your airline refused to sign your logbook upon resignation?
As EASA members, do you think airlines have legal rights to reject logbook stamping, and if so, where can one find the relevant rules?

Why would they?
Its not a flying school.
There is liability on their part also certifying something they’ve had no control over.
Get a copy from all your flying records they are legally obligated to keep but not obligated to share.
So ask nicely.

UK may be different from Europe but normally an employer is obligated to provide references, which as a pilot would reasonably include stamping logbooks. As a tip to others it is never a bad idea to get your logbook authenticated on a regular basis when you are in the office to avoid this kind of situation. Your base captain or some other senior colleague may be able to help in this scenario.

I sign several documents every month verifying a pilots hours. ATPL upgrades is the current favourite. Large airline, hundreds of pilots. Quite often, they have been with us just a few months, so I have no choice but to take their logbook at face value. The system is farcical and open to cheating. Always has been.

I have never heard of an Airline Stamping a logbook? Why should they be able to stamp a personal legal record which may include personal flying. If they won’t stamp it why not get them to provide a letter stating the hours you flew with them.

Had a manager who’d sign a log book if it was within a certain % of what companies records indicated .

It would be nice to know if that same airline demands to see a stamped logbook as proof of previous experience before hiring a new pilot.

Buy a stamp online. Stamp the logbook. Problem solved. :ugh:

A lot of people have moved to electronic logbooks these days anyway. Can't really stamp a iPhone. Another way to deal with it is with a letter verifying the hours at that particular company - so maybe ask them for that. Little easier in that it doesn't require a trip into Ops or wherever.

Failing that, take screenshots of your past roster / duties etc as evidence.

No airline has ever 'stamped' my logbook and no-one has ever wanted to see any airline 'stamp' in my logbook.

The only 'stamp' that I have had in my logbook over the past several years was for my Kiwi BFR.

I’m onto the fifth airline in my career, I’ve never had my logbook stamped and it’s never been an issue.

In the US very few airline pilots even keep a log book

Never even heard of stamping a logbook in civvie street. Certainly never been asked to show one. I hardly remember anyone giving my logbook more than a cursory look during my many job interviews.

In almost thirty years and five or six jobs none of my employers have looked at my logbook at all.

My most recent employer did not even ask to see my licence before hiring me. First time they set eyes on it was when they signed it at the end of my type rating course.

I know of chief pilots who have been asked to sign logbooks and refused because they can't verify that the contents are correct and therefore don't want to be held accountable. One CP when pressed gave the individual a printout from the company's FTL system showing the flying they had done on company aircraft and signed that with a carefully worded phrase like "correct to the best of my knowledge".

I'd run a print out of the pilots fdtl, take the log randomly audit (yellow highlighter) check the times and issue a sticker. With name, has had random audit of logbook(1per page minimum)
Times flown in company aircraft(reggies) certified iaw car's 703/704 AOC# signed/license#

In Canada single pilot aircraft must be flown 2 pilot ifr if no autopilot in commercial applications.
This then allowed them to get atpl certs

I don't know whether it is still done, but in my RAF time, An entry every month was required, countersigned by one's immediate superior. Once a year by one rung up the ladder. I kept that habit, without the counter signature throughout my civil career. Looked at by someonesenior once I think.

A quick snap of the day's ops returns - if they still exist - and files and backups kept at home.

Filling one's log book in used the be the law. I so wish I'd kept a diary and photos. I bought a camera so wondrous that it weighed in to a point where it pulled my neck to the ground. About 60 quid second hand in Malta.

I have been asked to provide a stamped logbook only once before, with Korean. Have heard from others that they have been reqd from Chinese airlnes.

kika

Southern European countries + Germany also love a good stamping of any "official document". It's like the stamp elevates the document onto a new category of officialness that unstamped documents may never aspire to.

If you're heading to Asia get your logbooks stamped. If all else fails, get stamps made with logos of airlines you worked for and sign underneath with different pens.