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Captain Spam Can 26th Aug 2023 09:19

BA and JET2 secret meeting in Leeds
 
Any info on this? I heard from a few people (well 2 separate people, one of which confirmed it and is a skipper at JET2) the whole place was cordoned off so no one could listen in, rumours are of BA selling off the Euroflyer arm to JET2 which would allow JET2 into LGW for some slots.

Flying Wild 26th Aug 2023 13:24


Originally Posted by Captain Spam Can (Post 11491817)
Any info on this? I heard from a few people (well 2 separate people, one of which confirmed it and is a skipper at JET2) the whole place was cordoned off so no one could listen in, rumours are of BA selling off the Euroflyer arm to JET2 which would allow JET2 into LGW for some slots.

Well that would be interesting given the historic lack of cooperation between BALPA and Jet2. The jet2 work ethic and ethos might be difficult to stomach for any die hard BA types.

Magplug 26th Aug 2023 14:08


Originally Posted by Flying Wild
The jet2 work ethic and ethos might be difficult to stomach for any die hard BA types.

I don't think you will find any 'die hard BA types' at LGW. They are mostly new hires from the last couple of years and a few new commands from BA mainline who are there to preserve their pension rights.

PC767 26th Aug 2023 14:10

Here we are again.

GO flogged to Easyjet (was it?).
BA Connect (as the regions plus Brymon and BRAL became) flogged to FlyBe.

BA cannot make lower cost work, mostly I presume, because there is nothing low cost to BA's corporate structure.

Jonty 26th Aug 2023 16:59

Or maybe BA are taking a share in Jet2?

ETOPS 26th Aug 2023 17:15

BA have put some effort into setting up this new Gatwick operation with new terms and conditions and airframes transferred in.
If they have already realised it isn’t working then hiving off to Jet2 might fit.

eagle21 27th Aug 2023 13:09

Will Balpa at BA now be preoccupied saving Euroflyer pilot jobs and use this to compromise a bit more on the mainline pay deal?

HOVIS 27th Aug 2023 13:21


Originally Posted by Magplug (Post 11491935)
I don't think you will find any 'die hard BA types' at LGW. They are mostly new hires from the last couple of years and a few new commands from BA mainline who are there to preserve their pension rights.

Do they have any pension rights? I thought it was closed about five years ago.

excrab 27th Aug 2023 15:13

I’m not saying it’s not happening, but if Jet2 and BA wanted a secret meeting I can’t really see why they would draw attention to it by cordoning off Low Fare Finder House. Wouldn’t they more sensibly hire an anonymous meeting room in a hotel somewhere off the M1?

Flightrider 27th Aug 2023 17:00

If it's all over PPrune, that has to be the worst kept secret in quite some time.

And as Excrab has stated, if it was to be that secret, you'd have met at Watford Gap service station or something.

HOVIS 27th Aug 2023 17:16

Too right. What goes on at Watford Gap stays at Watford Gap. 😁

Granite City Flyer 27th Aug 2023 18:27

They were too busy with meetings last week to go offsite. The morning before the BA meeting they were finalising the details of the deployment of the 6 x A330s ordered recently. In the afternoon HR joined in so a decision could be taken on wether the second pay rise of the year will be 3 or 4% in September. The following day was mostly concerned with which variant of the Max to order and how many 321 orders will be upgraded to XLRs. On Friday somebody went in to one of the meeting rooms and found an agenda for next weeks meetings, apparently Egypt, Cape Verde and long haul will be the topics for discussion.

Globally Challenged 27th Aug 2023 19:10


Originally Posted by PC767 (Post 11491937)
Here we are again.

GO flogged to Easyjet (was it?).
BA Connect (as the regions plus Brymon and BRAL became) flogged to FlyBe.

BA cannot make lower cost work, mostly I presume, because there is nothing low cost to BA's corporate structure.

BA mainline has basically been a low cost service for legacy prices ever since Cruz came in

Jonty 27th Aug 2023 19:21


Originally Posted by Granite City Flyer (Post 11492538)
They were too busy with meetings last week to go offsite. The morning before the BA meeting they were finalising the details of the deployment of the 6 x A330s ordered recently. In the afternoon HR joined in so a decision could be taken on wether the second pay rise of the year will be 3 or 4% in September. The following day was mostly concerned with which variant of the Max to order and how many 321 orders will be upgraded to XLRs. On Friday somebody went in to one of the meeting rooms and found an agenda for next weeks meetings, apparently Egypt, Cape Verde and long haul will be the topics for discussion.


good one! 🤣

hunterboy 28th Aug 2023 00:04

Sell it off for all the staff cares… I’m an employee not a shareholder. Sounds like J2 pay better than BA at LGW anyway. Sounds like a pay rise for most pilots down there….

Asturias56 28th Aug 2023 12:32

"They were too busy with meetings last week to go offsite."

that's the lower echelons of management

Something like flogging off Gatwick would be middle management at least

Top management just count their bonus package

CayleysCoachman 28th Aug 2023 20:54

You can create low cost from nothing. You can never create low cost from legacy. That said, the best bits of Go were more than worth having, it’s just that Stelios didn’t grab the very finest thing they had to offer…

Abbey Road 28th Aug 2023 21:04


Originally Posted by CayleysCoachman (Post 11493124)
That said, the best bits of Go were more than worth having, it’s just that Stelios didn’t grab the very finest thing they had to offer…

... which was ...... what, exactly?

kriskross 29th Aug 2023 07:43

The Boss.

3Greens 29th Aug 2023 09:31


Originally Posted by kriskross (Post 11493314)
The Boss.

Bruce Springsteen?


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