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Gordomac 28th Feb 2024 09:46

Well all I know is that I have made it clear to who works this, that in my next life I wish to be " Born in the USA",, work for someone like AIRCAL, be Based in LAX, live in Laurel Canyon, marry Britney Spears or some other Valley Girl and play drums, in my spare time for a Jazz trio at the Baked Potatoe in the Valley. After four previous lives, I have it on high authority that all requests will be granted.

IBMJunkman 28th Feb 2024 13:50

Britney is a bit crazy these days. Try another.



Originally Posted by Gordomac (Post 11605496)
Well all I know is that I have made it clear to who works this, that in my next life I wish to be " Born in the USA",, work for someone like AIRCAL, be Based in LAX, live in Laurel Canyon, marry Britney Spears or some other Valley Girl and play drums, in my spare time for a Jazz trio at the Baked Potatoe in the Valley. After four previous lives, I have it on high authority that all requests will be granted.


FLCH 29th Feb 2024 01:18


Originally Posted by Lady Speedbird (Post 11605204)
Thank you kindly for the additional input. Not much of a choice it seems. *sigh*

Sigh all you want … I was a Brit, started at the bottom 37 years later was at the top 700 out of 16,000 take your choice.

Check Airman 29th Feb 2024 05:16


Originally Posted by Lady Speedbird (Post 11605148)
So at UAL for example, I'm not going to be placed at the bottom of the seniority list but rather at a seniority # my experience will allow? My question in other words is, do I join as a new hire essentially, a green face or do I join, let's say #7,820 out of #22,000 (random numbers)

You may find this thread a good place to start. Lots of information on this website about pay and work rules. The pay tables tend to be out of date though, so check within the specific company forums for the current information.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/m...-vs-major.html

bafanguy 29th Feb 2024 13:26

I think we scared away Lady S. But it sounds like she's probably legacy bait if she wanted to take a run at it.

Amadis of Gaul 29th Feb 2024 15:41


Originally Posted by Lady Speedbird (Post 11605148)
So at UAL for example, I'm not going to be placed at the bottom of the seniority list but rather at a seniority # my experience will allow? My question in other words is, do I join as a new hire essentially, a green face or do I join, let's say #7,820 out of #22,000 (random numbers)

You're kidding,right?

rudestuff 29th Feb 2024 16:24

I think she's misunderstood post #17. "What your seniority will allow" (which is fook-all if you're at the bottom) could be interpreted as you can bring some seniority with you. You can't.

tdracer 29th Feb 2024 18:26


Originally Posted by Gordomac (Post 11605496)
marry Britney Spears or some other Valley Girl

Be careful what you wish for. California Valley Girls make look nice, but have you ever listened to them talk? Like totally, you know? Can you imagine living with that for the rest of your life?

Oilhead 29th Feb 2024 21:40

https://www.avjobs.com/careers-direc...quirements.asp

That information concerning United FA bases is well out of date and is misleading. The only foreign base is LHR; the rest closed during COVID, any FA who did not have US work rights lost their jobs. United has not hired direct hires into LHR since 1997. There are over 800 transfer requests in for US based FA’s to move to LHR and as someone has already written, everything at United is seniority based, whether pilot, FA or mechanic etc. GUA is a US base.

As far as pilots go, UA is still hiring ferociously. They are on track for hiring 2000 pilots this year alone. There are 17000+ pilots on the property now, with a rumored target of 28000. They may pull back to 1600 if MAX deliveries continue to tank. Green cards or citizenship required.

Southwest just stopped pilot intakes. For now.



bafanguy 29th Feb 2024 22:47


Originally Posted by Oilhead (Post 11606513)
As far as pilots go, UA is still hiring ferociously. They are on track for hiring 2000 pilots this year alone. There are 17000+ pilots on the property now, with a rumored target of 28000. They may pull back to 1600 if MAX deliveries continue to tank. Green cards or citizenship required.

Southwest just stopped pilot intakes. For now.

Yes, hiring has slowed down a bit but far from stopped.

I suspect Lady S would get a good reception from any US career-destination carrier to which she applied. She just needs to let us plan her career for her. ;)

Loose rivets 29th Feb 2024 23:26

I'm still curious about the requirement, or not, for the Brits to take the ATP exam.

bafanguy 1st Mar 2024 00:01


Originally Posted by Loose rivets (Post 11606561)
I'm still curious about the requirement, or not, for the Brits to take the ATP exam.


Well, yes they have to take the FAA ATP-CTP course and written exam. How would they be exempted ?

605carsten 1st Mar 2024 03:45


Originally Posted by Loose rivets (Post 11606561)
I'm still curious about the requirement, or not, for the Brits to take the ATP exam.

thats seriously what you worried about?? The CTP course is painful with some retiree showing you a pic of a CB and how a Jet engine works.. followed by one singular test that can be done with a weeks worth of study as opposed to the load of BS we need to do in EASA(or CAA now for that matter).

Also dont forget a workpermit is only that.. you can work for one company and thats it.. try to swap companies and its game over.. or the company goes bankrupt..
. Its not a green card freeforall ffs..

bafanguy 1st Mar 2024 10:45


Originally Posted by 605carsten (Post 11606614)
thats seriously what you worried about?? The CTP course is painful with some retiree showing you a pic of a CB and how a Jet engine works.. followed by one singular test that can be done with a weeks worth of study as opposed to the load of BS we need to do in EASA(or CAA now for that matter).

.

Yes, the ATP-CTP course is an expensive, annoying slap in the face to many people. It's the Imperial Federal Kakistocracy at work. Not much can be done about that.

Loose rivets 1st Mar 2024 14:24

As Alfred E Newman said, 'What, me worry?' Just curious. My taking of the ATP was for a specific job in Europe on an N registered 727. They wintered in the Caribbean. Sounded nice.

I'd got plenty of hours under the proverbial belt and had a social security number, just because you could in those days. I took the study for the exam seriously, marooning myself out at SIL's place at Canyon Lake. TX. It was so cold, the waterbed started to get stiff. I studied in an anorak and woolly hat. Ten days of slog.

I walked into an office of Flight Crew Testing Inc., at San Antonio. Randy greeted me from under his ten gallon hat. I knew he was randy cos it was cast in his buckle. His cowboy boots were crossed on his desk. Yes, his feet were in them. "You've got six hours.".

After an hour I didn't know what to do. I spent half and hour going over some questions and writing to Oklahoma about one of their performance questions. I 'proved' that all four answers were wrong. I still didn't know what Randy looked like as he'd never looked up from his book. Probably something like, 'How we Won the West'

I'd done the thing in the Fed's office with my UK licence and logbooks. The flying was straightforward except for the fact I had great difficulty with the RT. I prided myself that my UK RT was very precise and BBCish. Now I was in a land that I knew well, I could even speak TEX-MEX, but the machine gun rattle of ATC tested my processing and patience. It was as though they were all vying for "Coolest RT ramble of the year."

One thing 'Dutch', a hard bitten old skipper, asked me was 'Going towards a beacon, how soon before arrival should your speed be stable?' I answered with great confidence. "Three minutes." He kind of just looked at me in a 'I wonder if he's right, and I've been wrong all these years.' kind of way. Come to think of it, I still don't know the answer.

Oh, by the way, I was driven into San Antonio from the lake by a retired British Airways 1011 captain who'd settled there with his American wife. Dickie Davis??? not sure.

212man 1st Mar 2024 16:24


Originally Posted by Amadis of Gaul (Post 11606358)
You're kidding,right?

Her profile says she lives in South Kensington - I'm guessing she has a somewhat sheltered life......

bafanguy 1st Mar 2024 16:34

rivets,

Things here have changed a bit since you got your FAA ticket. ;)

dhorgan 1st Mar 2024 16:59

........and we'll support the Donald!

bafanguy 1st Mar 2024 17:48


Originally Posted by dhorgan (Post 11607063)
........and we'll support the Donald!

Not sure what that means. The current FAA ATPL licensing criteria became effective in 2013, IIRC.

Prob30Tempo TSRA 1st Mar 2024 19:58

I looked at this but find no way in .
I had an FAA cpl that I got after my uk licence but regardless of some familiarity , all I got contacted by were snake oil salesmen offering to get my FAA ATP for $12000 or so ..

no mention of who would employ me or on what ? I’m guessing if it’s even possible it’d be right hand seat 737 or maybe LHS regional ?


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