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Chuck Canuck 21st Jul 2023 05:40

Amazing Nigels
 

Akali Dal 21st Jul 2023 07:17

Sphincter tightening…

Boeingdriver999 21st Jul 2023 09:01

Nothing like a boot full of INTO wind rudder to give you a nice crosswind landing :ugh:

Capn Bloggs 21st Jul 2023 09:11


Nothing like a boot full of INTO wind rudder to give you a nice crosswind landing
I suspect that was a desperate attempt to not go further right (note the left wing dip a little while before)! Good give-it-away though. :D :ok:​​​​​​​

FUMR 21st Jul 2023 09:45

Click bait!

RexBanner 21st Jul 2023 10:30

Some of the posters here are lucky enough to have never made a mistake in their aviation career, not to mention flew in an age where there weren’t cameras pointing at them from all angles.. The important thing to note here is that exactly the right decision was made to throw it away and have another go, which was done successfully and without further note.

Capt Fathom 21st Jul 2023 11:24


I suspect that was a desperate attempt to not go further right
Yes. They were getting very close to the right hand edge of the runway, so unable to use left aileron, they stuck in a boot of left rudder. When that didn’t work, they went around.

The A380 could be a handful in some conditions bearing in mind It’s dimensions.

Lonewolf_50 21st Jul 2023 12:09


Originally Posted by RexBanner (Post 11471260)
The important thing to note here is that exactly the right decision was made to throw it away and have another go, which was done successfully and without further note.

If only we could put flashing lights around this well presented point. :ok:

olster 21st Jul 2023 12:44

I can confirm that the A380 can be a real handful in crosswind conditions due size and some Airbus control law complexities. To reiterate: which aviator among all the keyboard Chuck Yeagers here have not made mistakes or miscalculations (hint: we all have and certainly including me) ? Also to endorse the above, a sensible go around was carried out with presumably a subsequent satisfactory landing. Armchair critics eh?

Loose rivets 21st Jul 2023 22:23

I'd love to see it. Can anyone put in the direct link so I can post the URL - please.

megan 22nd Jul 2023 02:03


which aviator among all the keyboard Chuck Yeagers here have not made mistakes
Even he made a mistake which totaled an airframe, and very nearly lost his life in the process, had the burns to prove it.

LR here you go

Busdriver01 22nd Jul 2023 08:09


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 11471293)
Yes. They were getting very close to the right hand edge of the runway, so unable to use left aileron, they stuck in a boot of left rudder.

Sorry i'm going to need this one explaining to me, please? Why wouldn't they be able to use left aileron? Or do you just mean that because it had drifted downwind enough, de-crabbing would have put it over the edge of the runway - too much for a bit of aileron to correct at that point?

Agree with the main sentiment though - a well executed rejected landing, the safest option at that point. Well done nige!

kcockayne 22nd Jul 2023 09:08

In 37 years of “watching a/c land for a living”, & the same time flying light a/c, I have seen a few of these spectacular landings. This one just differs, somewhat, because of the size of the aeroplane. Well handled, from my perspective.
I would like to congratulate the aircrew for being able to “walk away” from it. Well done !

Herod 22nd Jul 2023 12:19

Another tip for finding some of these hidden posts. Click "Quote". A new page opens up with the link. Right click on the link and select "open link in new page"

Back on topic about mistakes. Thirty-nine years in aviation. Lots of mistakes, some trivial, some more serious. Now in well-earned, less scary, retirement.

FUMR 22nd Jul 2023 14:34

I tell you what was much more fun to watch. Piston airliners back in their day. You could always guarantee at least one (if not more) "interesting" landings. No CCTV, mobile phones or video cameras in those days. Pity, it might show some of our younger viewers how mundane some of the above are.

DaveReidUK 22nd Jul 2023 14:47


Originally Posted by Loose rivets (Post 11471633)
I'd love to see it. Can anyone put in the direct link so I can post the URL - please.

The first post does in fact consist solely of the link. Some (most) browsers render that as the relevant video embedded in the post; others don't seem to.

Although it doesn't appear to be used by many posters, PPRuNe does in fact have its own (YOUTUBE) tag (use square brackets), which tends to be a more reliable (though not foolproof) way of embedding a video in a post:



If all else fails then, as advised previously, you can always use the quote function to get at the URL posted by the originator.

Loose rivets 22nd Jul 2023 17:53

Thanks, megan, Herod and Dave. All seemed to work but while Saab was gathering info about the problem alternative browsers didn't work either.

The 380 had a lot of concrete slip by as well as having to assess the harm in regaining footage to the right. I'd love to see the processing of the computers as it was all happening. I imagine the day when a black box will tell the flying pilot just what it would do if it was flying. We'd quickly go into a set of Standard Operating Expletives.

Herod 22nd Jul 2023 18:10

Standard Operating Expletives. Not seen that one before.:ok:

Gargleblaster 22nd Jul 2023 20:33

The whale seems to be able to land in enormous crosswinds when properly handled:

India Four Two 22nd Jul 2023 20:55

An interesting video. I particularly liked the section at the end where a B-52 does "precision runway light demolition".


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